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Python vs Ruby holy war thread

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2005-04-12 13:11

Last week I learned Python. It's not perfect but it's pretty damn cool.
This week I'm starting on Ruby. I've just encountered blocks and I would approve if someone would answer this: are blocks merely an ugly kludge because the author did not know about lambda expressions, or can they do something lambdas can't?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-10 0:07

>>40
lol disregard that. I just installed ruby.

But I can still speculate that the problem is because Integer wraps up Fixnum and Bignum.

Name: abez !XWEgiX8ArQ 2005-06-20 16:59

When there is Perl and Ruby, why do you need python?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-20 20:31

because Guido brainwashed everybody

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-21 4:07

I took a look at the most popular scripting languages, here's what I thought of them:

- Perl: Nice and powerful, but write-once, so it's not that good for large applications.
- PHP: Perl's syntax fixed, less useful stuff, but the very best for web apps due to productivity and the ability to accomodate both basic and real programmers to get stuff done, and working good.
- Ruby: Unnecessarily cOOmplex. Looks like I'll create an ActionCreator object to create an Ignore action implementing the DoStuff interface, and send a doThis message to it.
- Python: Looking good. On second thoughts, I love the fact you're forced to indent your code. I'm tired of reading noob code.

I went for Perl at first, but quickly switched over to PHP because I'm getting paid to do stuff, not to brag at what I'm using. I'll learn Python as soon as I can, it looked good too.

Name: abez !XWEgiX8ArQ 2005-06-21 4:16

If you haven't use packages, objects or classes in Perl you should be careful of the assertions you make about its suitability for large applications.

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2005-06-21 4:29

>> Ruby: Unnecessarily cOOmplex. Looks like I'll create an ActionCreator object to create an Ignore action implementing the DoStuff interface, and send a doThis message to it.

You sure do like assuming all OO is like Java don't you.
Java is not a good example of OO - get over it.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-21 7:22

ruby is awesome no wonder why japaneses are dominating the
lenguage, beyond abstract, a lot of one liners, of course
its a one man lenguage, but being it a very abstract lenguage
it offers a lot of quick weird ways for doing things.

doing 10 things with one line is plain fucking awesome.

for me u are just noobs, if you dont see the power of ruby
(not as an all purpose lenguage of course)

wonderful tool ruby is
yoda spoke, bitches

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2005-06-21 8:49

>>47
Are you trying to be ironic?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-21 10:16 (sage)

It's hard to tell if that's a GNAA troll, thinly veiled sarcasm or an idiot zealot. Voting sarcasm.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 3:25

Gotta agree, Python is superior.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-12 13:00 ID:KavDlsHL

Oops, did I just bump a two year old thread?

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-12 14:43 ID:Heaven

Is this some kind of ``let's see who can age more threads from the fucking Bronze Age'' contest? Suddenly, the front page is almost filled with ancient threads.

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2007-06-12 15:31 ID:kwsgqf6u

I lovehate it when I start reading a post, think "lol what a tard", continue reading, think "hmm this seems familiar", then notice the name field and it's me from back when I was a tripfag.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-12 15:36 ID:Heaven

>>53
So, what are you using nowadays?

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-12 16:30 ID:sBRpG7Qi

>>54

HE ACHIEVED SATORI A YEAR BACK AND IS NOW EXCLUSIVELY USING MOVITZ, THE X86 LISP MACHINE.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-12 16:31 ID:Heaven

WHOOPS, SAGE, FORGOT, ETC.

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2007-06-12 17:50 ID:kwsgqf6u

>>54
Well since then I decided that Ruby was indeed superior to Python, then went and fapped over Smalltalk, later tried to get back into Scheme again but was forced to admit that however beautiful it is I'll never use it for anything more than toys.

Now I'm having insane amounts of fun with Haskell. It's a bit syntaxful for someone used to Lisp and code generators are a pain to write when you're not dealing in sexps, but apart from that it's pure win.

Name: Eleo 2007-06-12 17:58 ID:Uz0m3D6+

You guys always have conversations that are way over my head.  How come every time I come to this board it seems like I know so little?

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-12 19:05 ID:Q3MUZOzz

>>1
Mostly a matter of syntax. Ruby's syntax sucks, but its feature set is somewhere in the middle of "pretty fucking similar" and "exactly the same" as Python, at least for today's Python.

WTF, now I realize I'm replying to McJesus from a very long time ago. I remember him, but he hasn't been around, or he stopped being a name/tripfag. After reading >>53 , I'm glad to find he's still around, though he has become a Haskellfag ;__;

I miss the old times, when you achieved satori with LISP.

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2007-06-13 4:37 ID:5+ZmFjYn

>>59
Hay buddy. Yeah I joined the Anonymous hoard awhile back after finally accepting that it's the right way. But it's nice to revisit old times by using my old tripcode. Thanks >>51 for giving me this opportunity to relive my faggy past.

Oh and I still love Lisp, I just find Haskell more suitable for getting Real Work Done (TM)

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-13 4:41 ID:YRDwhzuo

In Soviet Russia, Integer Subclasses YOU!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-13 4:54 ID:KbX2kcpU

>>58
I learnt most of what I know thanks to fags mentioning in here in /prog. Believe it or not, this troll board proved to be more useful than years of uni for me.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-13 6:40 ID:qsCeF0U5

>>62
We should start giving out EXPERT PROGRAMMER degrees, with a variety of majors such as haskellfaggotry.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 10:17 ID:vIk9pSAb

>>62
Same here, I never would've got into Haskell if it weren't for this shithole board. Ha!

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 13:40 ID:aWsRvRfT

Ruby sucks dick.

Use smalltalk. It is consistent and works great.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 13:50 ID:Heaven

>>65
It's too old

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 15:16 ID:A7XNCo1c

>>66
Yes, everything long-lived is bad. Like Lisp, the worst language ever (ONE WORD, THE FORCED OPTIONAL INDENTATION OF THE SOURCE CODE).

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 15:20 ID:Heaven

>>67
Yes, a good example

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 15:24 ID:A7XNCo1c

>>68
I know.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 15:33 ID:Heaven

>>68,69

same EXPERT

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 15:42 ID:A7XNCo1c

>>70
No.

Name: PYTHON EXPART PRORGAMER 2007-08-23 17:41 ID:4VZXY//J

>>13
Python has map(), come back when you've rewritten it properly

Anyways, Ruby kinda sucks (imo), mostly because of its inane Perl syntax, ZOMG EVERYTHING IS AN OBJECT FAP FAP FAP, and slowness.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 17:42 ID:ddfbgKd/

>>72
you are an idiot

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 21:11 ID:Jo0tR8AD

>>73
no hes an expart

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-25 0:32 ID:Heaven

Use smalltalk, problem solved

Name: fusianasan 2008-04-28 20:27

If this doesn't work, Shii is a nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-16 10:57

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-09 16:04

don't mind me, just passing by.

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