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Is security more important than privacy?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-23 14:14

This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WRlaXbYpH8

White guy tries to explain how he feels about the UK's surveillance society.

Let's discuss this subject properly.

I'll start:
Privacy is more important. A pretext for mass invasion of privacy which only harmed thousands of people in the last decade isn't sufficient. Yes, I'm talking about terrorism.

>Boston Bombings: 3 dead. Whole of Boston under lock down. Nobody can leave home. People don't even feel safe in their OWN HOME. (Picture where a guy in a light tank was pointing his rifle at the cameraman).

>7/7/05 bombings: 51~ dead. Shit ton of CCTV installed, police powers DRASTICALLY improved, less transparency in govt, more fear and tax payer money wasted on keeping the fear, internet monitoring and soon all communications.

>9/11: Almost 3k dead. Patriot Act. (Plus more obviously but that was the main one).

Feel free to continue

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-23 18:44

>>5

>It's a balancing act

That's what Obama said. But in reality, there is no balance. It's almost fully tipped to security side and the fact that you cannot privately communicate without the government having access to such information is proof.

Anything other than encrypted messaging is readable and will be collected for future cases where it 'may' be needed and that should tell you something. Imagine police coming into your home and taking pictures of everything in your home in case they need to refer back to it in the future? Except, they'd do it every time you changed or bought something new.

You must realize that at the end of the day, there are almost 7 billion people in this planet. Regardless of how much information is being collected, if somebody is determined to commit a crime, they will. The data collect can only stop a handful of crimes occurring from the dumbest criminals. The real criminals know that they are being watched so they don't talk about anything important over the phone unless there's no choice and they'd encrypt it.

In conclusion, there will never be a fool-proof system to catch ALL criminals and pedophiles without violating the privacy of EVERYBODY. I do not want to give the notion that I want to protect these bad guys.

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