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Is security more important than privacy?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-23 14:14

This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WRlaXbYpH8

White guy tries to explain how he feels about the UK's surveillance society.

Let's discuss this subject properly.

I'll start:
Privacy is more important. A pretext for mass invasion of privacy which only harmed thousands of people in the last decade isn't sufficient. Yes, I'm talking about terrorism.

>Boston Bombings: 3 dead. Whole of Boston under lock down. Nobody can leave home. People don't even feel safe in their OWN HOME. (Picture where a guy in a light tank was pointing his rifle at the cameraman).

>7/7/05 bombings: 51~ dead. Shit ton of CCTV installed, police powers DRASTICALLY improved, less transparency in govt, more fear and tax payer money wasted on keeping the fear, internet monitoring and soon all communications.

>9/11: Almost 3k dead. Patriot Act. (Plus more obviously but that was the main one).

Feel free to continue

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-25 14:25

>>20

Can you link your thread 'truth with grain of salt'. I saw it a while ago but it got lost under new threads.

>>24

You have to understand that politicians have decades of experience in ignoring perfectly sound reasoning, it is an integral part of their identity.

It's not that they're ignoring it because they genuinely feel that it's not the right way to go, it's because they are being paid to push certain agendas by corporations. I'm sure you know this...

Just recently, BBC Panorama posed as a fake company and secretly recorded the interactions with a politician. It was something along the lines of £4k per 3 days of work or something crazy.

Then the media started talking about how he was wrong for taking payments AND NOT DECLARING IT TO THE PARLIAMENT. What the flying fuck?! Logically, a people's representative shouldn't be representing anything other than the fucking PEOPLE. British law protects lobbying.

In my eyes, the fact that he even took money should have been at the heart of the scandal rather than the fact that he didn't declare the payment.

Then the ones who got caught just retire back into their cosy lives (they are mostly millionaires) and live off their businesses.

Also, I forgot to mention that one boasted he could get direct access to David Cameron for £250k.

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