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Is security more important than privacy?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-23 14:14

This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WRlaXbYpH8

White guy tries to explain how he feels about the UK's surveillance society.

Let's discuss this subject properly.

I'll start:
Privacy is more important. A pretext for mass invasion of privacy which only harmed thousands of people in the last decade isn't sufficient. Yes, I'm talking about terrorism.

>Boston Bombings: 3 dead. Whole of Boston under lock down. Nobody can leave home. People don't even feel safe in their OWN HOME. (Picture where a guy in a light tank was pointing his rifle at the cameraman).

>7/7/05 bombings: 51~ dead. Shit ton of CCTV installed, police powers DRASTICALLY improved, less transparency in govt, more fear and tax payer money wasted on keeping the fear, internet monitoring and soon all communications.

>9/11: Almost 3k dead. Patriot Act. (Plus more obviously but that was the main one).

Feel free to continue

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-24 20:27

>>21

Everything up until your last sentence is a given. However, in order to effectively counteract the millions you identify in your last sentence, reasonable argument will be required.

As I said in >>>5, it is a political question, which means the political will in Congress to change these policies must be framed and driven in the public discourse. The media is, more or less, on our side for once in a great while. As such, reasonable persuasion is the top priority, which means you must defeat their emotional vague bull shit, assuming it to be true, with logic.

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