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Why all the hysteria over Ayn Rand?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 8:20

Altruism means "serve everyone but yourself" when the logical thing to do from the utilitarian perspective is to serve everyone including yourself.


The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value.
Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others.


Ayn Rand meant selfishness in the sense of standing up for yourself. There are many real life examples of where the traditional roles of selfishness and altruism are overturned, where selfishness is good and altruism is evil. For instance if you're being bullied the altruistic thing to do would be to sacrifice your own personal gain for others, by sitting there and taking it like a little bitch. The selfish thing to do would be to gain pleasure at the expense of others, escape, tell your bros then jump them the next day, spraying them up with mace and beating them with phone books.

I don't agree with Ayn Rand on everything, I believe the "common good" as a concept has been abused, not that it is invalid. The common good should ideally be democratic concerning groups and include individual rights when the group is at odds with the individual.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/altruism.html
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/common_good.html

However I have never heard anyone criticize Ayn Rand on these legitimate points and issues, only ever "hurr durr selfish randroids derp".

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 17:02

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>why are you and shlomo wasting so much time reading it and firing everything you've got at it, day in an day out?
Because we're actually interested in talking about politics and without fail, day in and day out, you get in the way and derail the thread with insufferably irrational posts.

Here's an analogy of the situation here: the thread is a train on at track and you are a car parked on the fucking tracks. The train doesn't lay down new tracks so that it hits you, you make yourself an obstacle and then wonder why you got hit by a train.

>Because all you're doing is spouting a direct quote from the vile racist jew cunt rosenberg herself
Even if that was true, and I invite you to post the source of this "direct quote", what relevance does that have to the actual content of the quote? If a Jew thought being alive was a good idea would you shoot yourself in the face?

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