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Why all the hysteria over Ayn Rand?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 8:20

Altruism means "serve everyone but yourself" when the logical thing to do from the utilitarian perspective is to serve everyone including yourself.


The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value.
Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others.


Ayn Rand meant selfishness in the sense of standing up for yourself. There are many real life examples of where the traditional roles of selfishness and altruism are overturned, where selfishness is good and altruism is evil. For instance if you're being bullied the altruistic thing to do would be to sacrifice your own personal gain for others, by sitting there and taking it like a little bitch. The selfish thing to do would be to gain pleasure at the expense of others, escape, tell your bros then jump them the next day, spraying them up with mace and beating them with phone books.

I don't agree with Ayn Rand on everything, I believe the "common good" as a concept has been abused, not that it is invalid. The common good should ideally be democratic concerning groups and include individual rights when the group is at odds with the individual.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/altruism.html
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/common_good.html

However I have never heard anyone criticize Ayn Rand on these legitimate points and issues, only ever "hurr durr selfish randroids derp".

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 16:06

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Altruism is giving a fish to a hungry man everyday and then one to everyone else who turns up looking for free food. Altruism is starving to death because you gave everything away while having to listen to how it's your "duty" to serve those you feed if you try to eat something you caught yourself.

You're conflating short-sightedness with altruism, that doesn't have to be the case.
Sure the person is being altruistic there, but they are also being stupid in how they carry it out.
A smart altruist would give their knowledge of fishing away rather than fish to everyone everyday.
Altruism doesn't have to be giving away that which is easiest and immediate, in fact the opposite is often the `most altruistic' (in that giving knowledge and skills is a lot more difficult than material things).

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