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Ok, so who IS the 1% ?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-01 15:43

I've heard anyone who makes over $500,000 yearly, and I've heard anyone with net worth more than 9 million.
Both of these seem a bit extreme to me... what is the real figure?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-05 22:29

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I wasn't aware this was about "winning"
Oh whatever. Why do you need to carry a copy around then? To prove your point, right? You can call it whatever you want, but that's still "winning" an argument on some level. Even if you're not arguing with anyone specific.

So will you at least back up with logic why you think quoting a speech from a novel that adequately responds to a common logical fallacy is wrong?
It's not necessarily wrong. It's mostly just lazy on your part. You don't need to give the matter any real thought or come up with any ideas of your own. You can just regurgitate someone else's idea. You don't even need to fully understand it. And when that's the argument you come up with in response to something, it's logical to assume that it's the best you've got.

Also, part of any speech's effectiveness is its context. Who is giving it and why? Even if it's relevant in today's society, at least some of its punch comes from fictional events in a fictional universe. And it should be obvious but examples from fiction don't prove anything. "Welfare is bad because Atlas Shrugged will come true," is a fucking retarded position. Not that this is your position, just an example. I could just as easily come up with a "liberal" example by the way.

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