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Name: Anonymous 2011-10-15 14:46

Can anyone give a coherent explanation as to why anarchy is apparently the solution to all the current systems?

I understand why anarchy might be attractive in that the individual is ultimately free of such thing as rule of law and therefore local as well as centralized government but there exists a major problem with anarchy: bandits. Bandits appear to be the downfall of anarchy in that they will fuck you in the ass until you get organized, delegate some duties to others in the organisation and form a... governing body of some kind with a branch that enforces good morals... and you see where the problem is.

And no, this thread is not an excuse to go on about why you think capitalism or socialism or communism has failed, I want to explore the possibility that there might actually be something I hadn't considered and anarchists aren't just in it because going smashy-smashy on private property is fun.

Name: AntiStatist !VoonmBZbSs 2011-10-19 20:16

I also would like to see a statist defend the fact that currently since i am avoiding jury duty eventually violence will be used against me to obtain the product of MY LABOR and if i resist i get put in jail or killed. I can see why a statist would be consistent although not legitimate in claiming taxes from someone because they provide some services that benefit them even if its not directly but its not legitimate in the sense that they did not consent, but where the fuck is in this so called SOCIAL CONTRACT the part where im mandated to attend jury duty?
This is why i cant take statism and statist advocates seriously, their answer to EVERYTHING is force and in the end how much has it worked out? Sure we always have the short term gains but people NEVER look at the long term losses(Kinda like Keynesian economists).

"WE ARE LEGITIMATE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GUNS AND WILL USE THEM AGAINST YOU IF YOU RESIST!!!""
Nice argument, with that kind of logic Rapists and Thieves are justified in doing what they do just because they can do what they do. Why do statists draw the line at the state government? Why is it when citizens break laws they get shafted but when its government officials and workers it suddenly becomes a whole new ballpark?

At least Monarchy was consistent in the sense that the king was divine but democracy claims it needs a state government because humans would be "mad max" and that state government is made out of those same people? that's not consistent at all.

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