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Fuck Capitalism

Name: blindpig 2011-08-23 10:03

Capitalism, capitalism. How do I loath thee? Let me count the ways….

Few would argue with the conclusion that greed, selfishness, ruthlessness, and egocentrism are qualities that all of us humans possess, to varying degrees of course. Equally compelling is the argument that nearly all of us are capable of acting with kindness, compassion, justice, honesty, generosity, and empathy. Yet despite the sweeping epidemic of unnecessary suffering caused by torrential waves of avarice, self-centeredness, and brutality, our filthy moneyed elite, their well-compensated sycophants, and countless millions of deeply inculcated members of the working class defend the sacred cow of capitalism with the zeal of the Sicarii. What a brilliant way to conduct human affairs and organize ourselves socioeconomically! Not only do we embrace the inevitability of our human frailties; we willfully and perpetually embrace a system that ensures that the worst elements of the human psyche will predominate AND which amply rewards those who act the most reprehensibly.

One of the idiocies advanced as a logical argument to justify the continued existence of the abomination of capitalism is that while it may be flawed, it is still better than any alternative. If capitalism is the best humanity can do, it's time to cash in our chips and leave Earth to our non-human animal counter-parts. They may not have opposable thumbs and formidably sized frontal lobes, but at least they don't engage in the systematic destruction of themselves and the rest of the planet. However, before we act too hastily and engage in mass seppuku, perhaps it would make more sense to implement a mass reorganization of our socioeconomic structure, basing the new paradigm on far more egalitarian, sustainable, democratic, just, and rational principles. Or we could just keep destroying each other and the fucking planet….

Perhaps most disturbing of all is the way in which capitalism's relentless advocates have managed to bamboozle billions of people into equating it with democracy. Diabolical to its core, but sheer genius nonetheless. Concluding that capitalism and democracy are somehow synonymous is a bit like saying that Dick Cheney and the milk of human kindness relate to one another in even a very remote fashion. (Have you seen the myriad pictures of his evil grimaces floating around the Internet? Despicable creature that he is, he doesn't even attempt to mask his malevolence). Capitalism is naturally hierarchical, authoritarian, and brutal. Corporations, the legal vehicles for the plutocracy to maximize their profits while minimizing liability, are structured as tyrannies. What the hell is democratic about dog eat dog, law of the jungle, and every man for himself? Besides, if we uber-capitalists here in the United States are truly "democratic," and we "elected" a depraved idiot like W. to what is ostensibly the most powerful position in the world, what does that say about us?

Name: AntiStatist !VoonmBZbSs 2011-08-26 18:48

>>29
The free rider problem is too complex to discuss here, but there are many theories on how it can be solved from ostracism to forcing people out of the society. The "love it or leave it" argument does work in a stateless society because the legitimacy of the ownership is almost not arbitrary at all, homesteading, i would think, would be a standard or one of the standards on whether people deem your ownership as legitimate.

Im not saying we can/should eliminate the "tyranny of the majority", all im saying is that democracy SWELLS that power and the best way to limit it would be stateless societies.

There are some examples of stateless societies so its not as theoretical as you think but if you desire heavy duty empiricism then for the most part you will not find it but answer me this: Did we have government before religion and ideologies were implemented?

>>28
This is an aspect of not having a more democratic way of dealing with such things.
That's the problem, it depends on a "democratic" method so it can work, the problem is that the people in power have no incentive to abide by the rules so your "system" has an exploit where people can lie, cheat, and steal after they have attained power, sure they cant go too far but as long as its behind closed doors their power is limitless.

The people in the US (like yourself) seem to have this idea that "Hey, since things aren't working as they should, I'll just swing all the way down the slippery slope and advocate "antistatism", "libertarianism", "anarchism", etc." Now they have two problems.
No most of us know that the US has NO legitimate ownership and authority over the things it claims to have control over. Most people cant get this and we have to resort to a more "practical" means of convincing people for people who want an answer to every question like >>29 and even then when we prove that the state has not met the standards they themselves try to use to derail Anti Statism they fall back on the empiricism of the status quo which is a total non answer.
Its not a slippery slope to advocate anti statism because most if not all the things the state values has yet to be achieved in this mess of a society.

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