Open-Source Political Party

Hello, /newpol/. I come from /g/ and we are trying to get a political party up and running. It's based off of open-source software in which users are able to provide changes themselves, and not rely on elected officials. There will be elections and such but those elected will be the organizers of the ideas and will be in charge of ensuring a proper flow of government. For more information, please view the original thread here: http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/19066441 and join our Google Group here: http://groups.google.com/group/open-source-gov

This idea is shit.
Sure is 12 year old politics in here.

>This idea is shit.
>Sure is 12 year old politics in here.

You mad, bro?

>>3
Its already been done google "the zeitgeist project".

>>4
The Zeitgeist Movement is not a new form of government
They advocate The Venus Project, which is somewhat similar, but they do not share the same views we do

>We believe in a free and open-source government
Is that it?
Your concept doesn't even make sense. You want some sort of Texas law style state where it's every man for himself?

>>3
Come back when you've finished primary school.

No, we merely wish to create a system where any member of society may contribute to the legislative process. With current telecommunications technologies we can more easily and quickly find the opinions of our citizens, making a system similar to direct democracy more feasible.

Well in my country we already have a working democratic system which covers all of that. I'll leave you guys to play your little game. Have fun.

>In OSS, there's a large community of people contributing. These are regular guys, with ideas and the knowledge of how to get them to work. They submit them, others agree on them, they get pushed to a bigger audience, more people look into it, test it out, and then it gets pushed out to everybody.
>Today's government doesn't work like that.
>We "elect" a group of people to make changes and decisions for us, and hope it works for the best. The regular Joe has no say in anything other than choosing which puppet he likes best.

The kernal is the Constitution, if you will. It doesn't need much altering, it provides the backbone for everything else to function.
Then you have your specific implementations, like distros, that might apply to each state or country people to choose to live in. And then people can vote on what packages or laws they want to come with it.

What you just described is how democracy works. You can submit your ideas to your local MP and he will pass that up the chain if it has enough support.
This is pretty much what was laid out by Cromwell. Your local MP has it in his interest to look out for his constituency otherwise people won't vote for him.
400 years too late kids.

Oh boy, Ron Paul can share your nomination with the Libertarians.

It's not a crazy idea... but its harder to agree on politics than on the quality of software... even harder...

I like traffic lights.

>>1
Thread's gone 404. Anyone have a new one?

Free hookers.

>>14
He likes traffic lights.

= 1

>>14
Traffic lights are luminescent banners of statism and should be torn down, the invisible hand is all that is needed to ensure safety and efficiency on the freeways.

>>19
well, i like traffic lights, but only when they're green.

>>19
So going by that logic, the Internet itself is a "network of statism" that was created by government (what the hell do you think DARPA is?) and the invisible hand is all that is needed to make it all better (read: shittier).

Glad I wasn't a libertardian for long, it's just a brain-damaged ideology.

>>20
If they are green this but means that they are red to another.
>>21
So if the state sets up some shitty old military communication system that means all the credit for the internet goes to the state? Not the individuals who created all the innovative content for it or the corporations that developed the technology behind it?

Or are you saying we should thank the state for preserving our property rights? I don't owe the state anything, the state is a necessary evil, an inevitable protection racket, ethically they owe me and should strive to interfere as little as possible.

>>22
So if the state sets up some shitty old military communication system that means all the credit for the internet goes to the state?that means all the credit for the internet goes to the state?
No, but they certainly are the originators. The Internet was developed by the military and academia long before any private corporation started to develop with it and even longer before you visited your first Web site.
Or are you saying we should thank the state for preserving our property rights?
Contrary to popular libertarian belief, governments do protect private property rights.
I don't owe the state anything, the state is a necessary evil, an inevitable protection racket, ethically they owe me and should strive to interfere as little as possible.
This isn't a National Socialist or Marxist-Lennist government we're talking about here and hand waving the issue isn't going to get you anywhere.

End the fed.
Legalize all drugs, gambling, and prostitution, and offer treatment for those who need it. Tax the shit out of sales.
Flat tax with no loopholes for rich/corporate.
Tax all profit-generating religion.
End wars except as a defensive measure.
Wide open immigration.
Reduce copyright longevity to 20 years.
Lower drinking age to 18.
Lower presidential age minimum to 18 and allow permanent residents to run.
Pay off the damn debt.

|End the fed.
Sure.
|Legalize all drugs, gambling, and prostitution, and offer treatment for those who need it.
Why not infect people with AIDS and make them pay top dollar for the drugs. It's cleaner.
|Tax all profit-generating religion.
That would be too obviously political.
|End wars except as a defensive measure.
Obama said that, then attacked Libya. Sometimes there are people you just need to kill the fuck out of.
|Wide open immigration.
No. You want 100 million people rushing to vote for whoever waves a welfare check at them? Half of the state of California pledges the allegiance to the wrong flag. 
|Reduce copyright longevity to 20 years.
10 years.  End software patents. Reform the broken Patent system we have. Fair use amendment. 
|Lower drinking age to 18.
Meh. Makes it easier to rape teen girls.
|Pay off the damn debt.
You'd have to kill off all the Democrats and eliminate entitlements.

>>23
Whoever invented the penny whistle isn't responsible for Mozart's concertos, also the state hired the RAND corporation to head research. Also libertarians directly state they believe that preserving property rights if one of the functions of the government.

Anyway, going back to the original point, the state isn't more efficient than anything except monopolizing force, it just artificially creates the conditions where in the short term it is the only administration that can perform such functions effectively even if it is entirely feasible in the long term to marketize everything.

Addicts will ALWAYS be able to find drugs. Legalization would strike street gangs where it hurts: the wallet.

Taxing religion: start with Scientology. Compare the megachurches to them
 I'm not saying I expect it, but I would vote for a candidate if they favored it.

Libya was Meh. In, blow shit up, out. We had international support. So good job. It was different than an invasion, ie. Iraq.

Immigration has been a constant in this country's history. Immigrants tend to work harder than citizens. The fears around it are based around theory, not practice. Also, I don't support instant voting rights.

I really don't see Republicans in general being too keen on paying off the budget. Cutting taxes while spending 13 digits leads to a deficit.

>>26
Also libertarians directly state they believe that preserving property rights if one of the functions of the government
Most have this paranoid fixation that the government doesn't, which is the libertarian demographic I was specifically addressing. I'm not saying there aren't sane individual libertarians out there, but the ideology amounts to little more than theology.