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Raising the Debt Ceiling

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-23 2:08

Tea partiers, What the fuck is wrong with you? You're about to cause the US treasury to default on its loans. Isn't that exactly the kind of shit a fiscal conservative would want to prevent?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-18 17:41

>>116
>3 trillion dollars isn't real

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-18 22:12

>Prominent tea partiers have said flat out that their top priority is getting Obama out of office.

Why would that be a a problem? They would have to in order to stay true to their ideals.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-18 22:21

>Tea Partiers - extreme right wing

Yeah, not that it actually means anything. It's just a tag that all Dems were told stutter as often as they can, now that racism and class warfare isn't working out.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-18 22:34

>>120
>Seems like more people that don't understand that balancing the national economy does not

Wrong. It does. It's the same thing in the end. It seems to me you really need that debt thing to go away for your ideology to make sense. So you try to wish it away.

Your logic is too twisted. You're trying to turn the idea of a deficit into an abstract idea.

Ask yourself, if Obama openly stated your ideas in the next election, would he win? The Tea Party would have a hell of a day.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-18 22:57

>>124
>Wrong. It does. It's the same thing in the end.
I don't think that worked.  Try saying it again, and maybe this time it'll come true, right?

If you want to completely and utterly fuck over the private sector, sure, go ahead and cut spending and balance the budget.  But there's a value transfer involved there, and it's got to come from somewhere - it sure as hell isn't going to magically appear from the balance of trade.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-19 8:23

>>121
So he's supposed to cut more than Boehner demanded him to?

>>122
Because the only logical next step in that plan is to sabotage him which is clearly bad for everyone. Unless you're a dipshit anarchist and you actually want the government to fail.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-19 12:52

>>126
>Unless you're a dipshit anarchist and you actually want the government to fail.
Congratulations, you've figured out the Tea Party agenda.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-19 16:05

>>126

no, I was insulting the poster the '>' meant 'implying', as in he was implying 3 trillion dollars isn't real deficit reduction, which is ridiculous.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-19 17:46

>>128
Ah yes. Poe's Law at work here!
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-20 21:38

Roosevelt increased spending, and grew the economy greatly. America's per cpita real GDP in 1944 was much higher than that in 1928. Clinton increased taxes on the rich and large companies, and grew the economy greatly. He reduced the national debt.

Increasing spending does not necessarily grow the economy. Bush increased spending. But the US economy stagnated, because he spent much money on unproductive fields. Good spending can grow the economy. But bad spending creates fake economic growth, and hurts the economy in the long run. Wasting money lowers the living standard of the people.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-20 21:50

When the economy grows and revenues increase, the national debt decreases. I hope the government slashes the defense budget, increases taxes on the rich and large companies, and spends much money on productive fields.

Austerity measures lower the rate of economic growth. Look at the EU. Their economies look stagnant. Austerity measures have been torturing Greeks.

The ECB has started to buy large quantities of government bonds, but Greek government bond yields have not fallen. There is good reason for the plunge in stock prices.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-20 22:02

And the fear that the GOP may slow the pace of recovery is one of the causes of the plunge. If Greece defaults, the world economy will be badly damaged. The ECB and EFSF have to promise they will not let Greece default.

If the Fed does not buy Treasuries, the US will go bankrupt. If the ECB had saved Greece, the world economy would not have been greatly damaged in May 2010. The ECB destroyed the world economy. It can resolve the problem easily.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-20 22:59

>And the fear that the GOP may slow the pace of recovery is one of the causes of the plunge.

Implying there wasn't reasons for that to occur independently anyway. It's nice to see that people's feelings are now the real problem instead of genuine economic problems.

You're looking for scapegoats on Obama's behalf. Nice try.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-20 23:07

>>131
>When the economy grows and revenues increase, the national debt decreases. I hope the government slashes the defense budget, increases taxes on the rich and large companies, and spends much money on productive fields.

Yes. We need to hit 100 trillion in debt for the achievement in WoW, increase taxes on corporations until they leave for china and buy expensive toys we can't afford and won't pay off.

Could you relay this to George Soros's and Moveon.org's shills so we can make sure our brown-shirts can demonize and persecute anyone who disagrees with us.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 3:07

>>133
Economic problems are usually a result of people's feelings. Lack of consumer confidence, for example. And S&P did cite congress's unwillingness to raise revenue as a major reason for the downgrade in the US credit rating which in turn fucked markets all to shit.

persecute
I find it fucking hilarious when conservatives play the victim card.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 19:47

>I find it fucking hilarious when conservatives play the victim card.

Because they are learning from libfags?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 22:24

>>135
I'm sure that they explicitly stated that the Tea party or not having higher taxes is somehow causing global warming or economic problems or something like that.

Somehow, I'm unconvinced by your rather weak point.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-22 11:32

You'd offer a loan to the US government but you'd never buy shares in it if it were a business.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-22 13:52

lol, blaming the tea party for the federal reserve.

Must be a left wanger.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-22 18:29

>>136
Because they accuse liberals of it all the time, yes. And the idea that conservatives are persecuted is laughable.

>>137
>>139
Strawman. Fuck off.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-22 21:36

>>140
>Because they accuse liberals of it all the time, yes.

Technically, liberals do obsessively attack the right 24/7 every chance they get. Pretending they don't abuse every resource to do so, makes you retardedly laughable.   

>Strawman. Fuck off.

Make me, pussy. First Amendment isn't dead yet.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-23 14:02

INTERNET TOUGHGUY DETECTED!

Typical conservative. Words failed you so you resort to confrontation.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-23 23:25

Confrontation? Lol!

Nice caps, your impotence is delicious. Like I said, make me pussy. :)

I don't need to be a tough guy when I know you're all bark and no spine. You're a typical fascist who can't finish what he starts and cries foul when he can't win. Poor Nazi.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-24 0:47

Being confrontational and acting like you didn't start something makes you childish.

Calling someone a tough guy when you realize he's asking you to put your money where your mouth is makes you a cowardly little shit.

Putting these together and you have the typical libfag mentality of someone who wants to attack and shit on other people's opinions while preaching your own opinions as the absolute truth.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-25 8:05

all bark and no spine
a cowardly little shit

Seriously? I'm a coward because I won't "make" someone shut up on the internet? You niggers best be trollin.

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