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individualism vs collectivism

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-08 6:21

where do you stand?

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-17 15:29

>>40
No, >>9 is actually a fucking good post. Quit whining about >>9's opinion and if you have an opinion of your own, just say it.

What does calling things you don't understand 'stupid' say about you? Think about it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-18 15:17

>>40
I directly stated in clear logical terms why I thought it was stupid.

I did an experiment where I rolled a dice to see how fearful I was of the unpredictability and because I felt nothing this proves everything >>9 said is total bullshit.

>>9 calls everyone who disagrees with him afraid of unpredictability then went off on a tangent about harmony and destiny like a kool aid drinking cult leader. What does that say about him?

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-18 18:54

>>42

>>9 is actually a very reasonable post, and not at all inflammatory. What crawled up your butt and died?

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-18 22:03

>>43
Why shouldn't I get mad at the fact so many people believe in bullshit and can't be reasoned with?

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-18 22:18

I don't even know where >>9 is going.  He seems to be describing something more than obvious and then stops on the cusp of going somewhere.  Poetry is not the same as a solid point backed with citations or examples.

On the other hand, I see nothing obnoxious about it though there is a nagging impression that, if somewhere in there is advice, it may only be worth pursuing from a more concise position.

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-19 1:41

Individualist are people smart enough to lead their own life.
Collectivists need other people to tell them what to do.
Black or white, we should just call them niggers, and instate slavery based on IQ tests.

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-19 11:18

>>46
I think being "racist" regardless of race is called social darwinism, technically.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-23 14:52

Collectivism is only possible through bureaucracy. There is nothing special or magical about it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-23 17:51

>>48
Individualism is simply sociopathy. There is nothing special or magical about it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 8:03

>>49
Except there are individuals and there are no collectives, just bureaucracies.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 10:11

>>50

What do you think our society is?  It's one giant collective, all society is a collective.  We build roads, bridges, and schools all for entirely collective purposes.  If one were to analyze all societies on Earth objectively one would have to conclude we are largely a collective species.  We not only share wealth to pay for collective interests but we do nothing but socialize with one another through some form of technology or in person. 

From wikipedia "A collective is a group of entities that share or are motivated by at least one common issue or interest, or work together on a specific project(s) to achieve a common objective."

Can you think of a better way to describe the point of government? 

How else was the interstate highway built?

It was not brought about by private investors seeking to capitalize on the nations need for a transnational network of routes (it already existed in the form of trains, also set up by the government but previous to that still, private entities did not invest in such things).  The people would benefit greatly from the interstate highway, thus they were a group that shared the same interests.  They all paid taxes and elected officials who campaigned on the fact that he/she shared such interest and would enforce it.  That's working together on that goal.

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