Donald trump

So i heard this fool is running for President. I personally wouldn't but Would you vote for him?

Yes, presidents are already controlled by the plutocracy, if a plutocrat were president the only difference would be the absence of a facade.

Yeah, I'd probably vote for him, depending on who's running against him.  But dude's a hustler.  He can sell anything, and buy anything for 1/4 of the price asked.  Let him have office for 4 years, get our asses out of debt and then some, and then get someone in there with some morals and smarts to fix everything else.

WHERE IS HIS OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE???

WHAT IS HE HIDING???

>>3
unfortunately, it's NOT all about debt... there are a myriad of things that could go wrong, and then what would we do, with HIM in charge?
I would not vote for him: I think he symbolizes a lot of what is wrong with our country.

>>5
>I think he symbolizes a lot of what is wrong with our country
Maybe that's why he should be placed in the ultimate political limelight.

>>6
what, so we just send ourselves to hell in a handbasket to prove a point??

Though i agree with 7 i think that it still wouldn't be wise

>>7
Isn't that why President Obama was elected?  Great promise or miserable doldrums?

>>5
Can you delve further into "what is wrong with our country?"

>>9
I could, but... nah

>>7
We're already there, the only difference is it would be more obvious who the kinds of people responsible are. Instead of an Obama, a "people's" man, a manchurian candidate for the elite worshipped by a certain % of the population with dark skin hues, we'd have a corrupt decadent multi-millionaire.

>>11
He would be just more of the same. Frankly, I think most Americans are too stupid/decadent to "get it", even if they were hit over the head with a sledgehammer.
And at the end of the day, we would still be sending ourselves further into hell in a handbasket just to prove a point. Sorry, I've got a kid, not worth it to me.

(I'm going to ignore your inflammatory comments about Obama, just so you know.)

>>12
This isn't a difficult concept to understand, it would be slightly less of the same shit because it's easier to criticise a white male multi-millionaire than a black male millionaire who manages to pass himself off as an oppressed victim proletariat. The plutocracy would be shooting themselves in the foot if they let Trump become president, they would no longer be able to say "look, we're not in control, a black man is president, why would evil racist imperialist capitalists let a black man be president, put your placards down, go home and watch American idol".

Also I'm not going to just ignore issues of race in America, I'm not going to pretend voting for Obama because "he look like me" isn't racist because race is a sensitive issue, if people like me didn't do this we'd still think the sun orbits the earth.

The plutocracy would be shooting themselves in the foot if they let Trump become president, they would no longer be able to say "look, we're not in control, a black man is president, why would evil racist imperialist capitalists let a black man be president, put your placards down, go home and watch American idol".
And what? all future candidates must be black or female or black and female?  They say it now and no one really cares.

I was under no delusions.  In theory, a normal person can be elected President.  In practice, the process by which a normal person can become considered Presidential material at primary time secedes them from the group of "normal people."

>>14
There are 3 major players in this situation.

The rational voter, ethical and logical
The irrational voter, illogical.
The plutocrats, unethical and logical.

Voters can have both a rational and irrational side, most rational voters are not lawyers or scientists who understand every technical detail of the political process and for instance can be fooled into thinking state interventionism helps to restrain corporate power when in reality they are handing over special privileges and powers to the board members of fortune 500 companies, another example, a rational black voter may vote for Obama because he feels that putting a "black face" in the white house will be a watermark in ending racism when in reality racism is pretty much negligible and a non-issue he shouldn't be considering at all much like the abortion issue.

Despite all this rational voters have a lot of power, if the plutocrats had their way it would be like North Korea, they'd pretty much just enslave everyone. The plutocracy are not tyrants swinging their dicks around, they act in much the same way as the mafia, they do as much as they can get away with, in the same way the mafia wouldn't touch drugs the plutocracy are afraid of corrupting democracy excessively because they don't want to be discovered so if there is a 1% chance an action will reveal their whole scam they won't do it no matter how much money they can make from it. Plutocrats sometimes police their own ranks by feigning outrage whenever one of their own goes too far (the public find out). Their profession is one part managing their businesses or government agencies and one part discovering more ways to make voters irrational and approve more special privileges for themselves so they don't have to compete with the highly educated professional upper-middle classes who could very easily do their job and probably a great deal better than them.

With this in mind it should be easy to see how Donald Trump being president would make things a little more difficult, I'm not saying he ought to be president, the person who ought to be president is a genuine non-liar version of Obama, even if he is one of them fruity liberal types. I'm saying in the absence of a true Obama I'd rather the plutocracy shoot themselves in the foot.