Throw me your arguments against capitalism. Keep it on topic as well.
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Anonymous2011-01-18 3:35
>>137
I look after my nation and my race. There are more important things than you making a few extra dollars so you can snort cocaine and sleep with prostitutes.
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Anonymous2011-01-18 3:42
Why can't I buy my water and electricity from the government? Instead I have to buy them from evil privately owned monopolies.
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Anonymous2011-01-18 3:43
>>91
I'd gladly drink from a stream but its full of litter that you faggot capitalists created.
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Anonymous2011-01-18 6:21
>>163
I swear >>91 is paid to be in here spreading propaganda like that!
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Anonymous2011-01-18 6:28
>>163 >>164
Whether you agree with 91 or not it's ignorant not to look at autonomy and bureaucracy impartially. In theory if everything were run democratically the world would be a utopia, the thing is we can't do that, all we can do is create a collection of self-interested individuals in a bureaucracy with imperfect systems of representation and oversight.
Private property is vastly different from public property, if some evil corporation dumped mercury in my back yard I would have legions of lawyers begging me to let them have the case and I would probably a receive a 7 digit settlement overnight, if the evil corporation dumped it on public property then whoever was affected would have to go through miles of red tape and bureaucracy just to get the message out and most likely the evil corporation will have had far more experience in such matters than the few individuals opposing them.
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Anonymous2011-01-18 14:52
>>165 Private property is vastly different from public property, if some evil corporation dumped mercury in my back yard I would have legions of lawyers begging me to let them have the case and I would probably a receive a 7 digit settlement overnight, if the evil corporation dumped it on public property then whoever was affected would have to go through miles of red tape and bureaucracy just to get the message out and most likely the evil corporation will have had far more experience in such matters than the few individuals opposing them.
This still has some problems. For instance, farmers in Pennsylvania have their natural creek water supply polluted from drilling for natural gas nearby. It's not considered polluting on their property since waste from the gas drilling is not dumped directly onto their property, rather the company dumps it onto their own property. (instead, it's being carried by the flow of water onto their property). There's no law in the book either state or Federal that can stop it, and the farmer has to purify his water just so he can have clean drinking and shower water for him and his family. Now, in such a case, what is the libertarian solution then?
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Anonymous2011-01-18 15:52
>>166 being carried by the flow of water onto their property There's no law in the book either state or Federal that can stop it
If there was a social democracy lacking that law then nothing could be done either, regardless, in this situation libertarianism would be more beneficial to the farmers due to strong direct democratic local government and, failing that, the right to bear arms.
This is a bad example though, it is pretty basic property law for it to be illegal to pollute someone else's property, a creek isn't exactly an ambiguous or poorly understood method of transmission.
>>169
He's a better libertarian than he is a Mormon fundamentalist in that case.
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Anonymous2011-01-19 10:33
>>171 Libertarianism is such a threat to my religion of marxism I am willing to take huge logical leaps to slander them.
Sure thing bro.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 12:15
US health care.
/thread
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Anonymous2011-01-20 12:30
>>172
I wasn't aware you were taking that to be an insult as I meant it amicably. Just to get the point out of the way before future replies, though, neither Marxism nor Libertarianism is (considered) a religion.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 19:22
>>174
Marxism is a goofy Christian splinter cult, complete with apocalyptic siege-mentality worldview, that attempts to immanentize the Eschaton.
>>175 Marxism is a goofy Christian splinter cult
When put into practice and application, destroyed churches, ousted and tortured priests, pastors and theologians, and created the Society of the Godless, to assist in carrying out the early Soviet Union's radical atheist agenda, yet Marxism is a "goofy Christian splinter cult". Riiiiight.
>>177 I have been crushed in debate and am now pretending I was a troll for emotional comfort against the enormous humiliation.
snap snap puppy
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Anonymous2011-01-21 10:28
Why is economic liberalism considered to be part of conservatism? Only faggots support anything with the word liberal in it.
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Anonymous2011-01-21 15:47
>>179
It is true most things with the world "liberal" in them turn out to be marxist drivel, this is not one of them though. You see they never pick up a dictionary, they think claiming words like "progressive" for their own makes them progressive, in the same way the democratic people's republic of North Korea thinks it is a democratic people's republic.
Yes! Watch OUT!! It's "us" vs "them"...
You can only really trust Glenn Beck, and him only when he's got a really really sincere face, or when he is crying.
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Anonymous2011-01-22 4:25
>>181
I never said anything about us, for all you know I could be a libertarian and not a conservative like Glenn Beck.
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Anonymous2011-01-22 9:26
Beck is pretty libertarian in a lot of ways. He's advocating a return to religion, not a government regulation of human behavior. I've honestly never seen beck advocate for government control of ANYTHING
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Anonymous2011-01-23 8:40
>>183
I haven't seen Glenn Beck's manifesto but I'm pretty sure he's not strong on social freedom.
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Anonymous2011-01-23 14:25
He didn't right a manifesto. But there is a huge difference between saying that you personally should live by the Bible and saying that the government should FORCE you to live right.
He has advocated the former, but not the latter.
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Anonymous2011-01-24 7:20
>>185
Wikipedia says Glenn Beck supports right to life.
yeah of course capitalism is good, my country adopt capitalism and I enjoy my life just fine. lucky me.
I should be thankful that I were not born in those mindless families that works their ass off and still being sucked of their poor life.
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Anonymous2011-02-03 12:04
if you mean " free trade" then fuck yeah!
if you mean the current financial system dominated by mercantilist powers and mega banks AND THE FUCKING FEDERAL RESERVE
then no, fuck no
Globalization and the neoliberal agenda are based exactly on this: Use 'free trade' to gain access to new markets and then use their economic advantage to buy everyone else out and set up monopolies. It's all a premeditated strategy for economic conquest - nothing less, nothing more.