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Oil Spill

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-25 4:55

Is it BP's fault or Obama's fault?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-25 6:03

I would say both at this point. It's BP's fault in the sense that they screwed up and didn't do things properly. It's also the government's fault in the sense that they've delayed solutions to the problem and dragged things on to the point where things stand today.

I'm also hearing from people that the government and BP declined help from some European nations like Denmark who offered to help clean up the spill. It's as if they want the water in the gulf to be contaminated forever.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-25 9:24

The Oily Anus

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-25 13:02

Blame?
I would first start with the post-approval environmental groups.  BP was already given the green light to drill in shallower waters - manageable 500ft depths - and then they ride in and push BP out to depths of a mile to drill for the same source.  This is a common problem for oil drilling: there is a lot of shallow coastal oil reserves that have been mapped to some detail but those who would access these resources get pushed out to more hostile, unmanageable territories.  This extreme depth remains a problem in this catastrophe, as evidenced by BP's first endeavor to cap the well where it became blocked off as it was being lowered (crystallization build-up; ice, I am assuming?).

BP did bypass a lot of safety concerns during construction.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-14-oil-spill-letter_N.htm
I don't have to say much more since the listed items, and others not mentioned but are easily evident, speak for themselves.  On the other hand, I haven't read a specific report that explains whether the initial explosion broke open the pipe or the actual collapse of the rig broke it.  If it was the former, all on BP in this department; the latter, and, after the initial disaster, it was out of BP's hands if the oil spill could have been averted.

The Administration is the last to blame.  Their effort was tardy at first, insufficient when it came, and they keep tripping over foolishness and bureaucracy, seeking their only refuge in posturing.  I would actually sum-up the Administration's efforts as "cowardly."  Both BP and the Administration know that true management of the spill is out of their hands, and was out of their hands as soon as it was detected, but only BP was required to do something about it; by keeping their distance, the Administration looks frightened to accept any responsibility for the efforts to cap the well.  They've left BP to play with to experimentation and, for their efforts, I do hope BP actually gets off better in history books than they deserve.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-25 19:11

Everything is Bush's fault, of course.  Everything.  Even when he left office two years ago, it's still Bush's fault.

Just because as soon as the accident happened, oil companies and governments of thirteen nations offered assistance--Saudi Arabia, for example, offered specialized boom skimmer vessels developed for cleaning up oil spills--Obama refused the Dutch and Canadian offers outright without explanation, and did not even respond to the others, perhaps being too busy asking Hollywood movie director James Cameron what he should do, it's still Bush's fault.

WHOOP WHOOP HOPE WHOOP WHOOP CHANGE WHOOP WHOOP I'M FIRED UP WHOOP WHOOP YES WE CAN WHOOP WHOOP

Obama looks bored with it all.  All his life he wanted to be President, and now that he has the job, he doesn't like it.  It's boring, and he has to make hard decisions, not just sit around and vote "present."

But that's Bush's fault too.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-26 16:10

ur trying to lay blame here like it was an accident lol...these fkn corporations invent the chrisis and then offer the solution..they maximize profits at any social or environmental cost...

goldman sachs sold over a half million shares of bp a month prior to the spill, but sold no other oil stock the entire quarter, the ceo of bp sold a third of his shares, and haliburton conveniently bought and oil spill recovery company 2 weeks prior to spill...it was completely deliberate...

its a smart plan, but it's based on americans being so dumbed down, and wrapped up in the propaganda that they can get away with this shit...educate urselves already....

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-26 16:26

>>6
Someone with such bad grammar has no business telling others to "educate" themselves.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 15:07

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 17:22

>>8
Back to /b/, please

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-02 11:55

>>9
I wasnt there in the first place

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