Stopping internet censorship

Can we, the internet, do anything to help our friends in China/North Korea gain some freedom? Is it possible to bring down the wall? I'm not sure how bad it is over there, but probably eventually they're just going to have a private network with nothing getting in or out. It's madness!

>>1
Sure set up a few tor exit nodes and post them on chinese forums.

Heh heh, pretty soon you'll have to start doing the same for Aussies once Stephen Conroy and his gang have their way.

I don't know what those nodes are, and I don't know of any chinese forums... but even if I did that wouldn't they just take it down 10 minutes after it's up?

Anyway internet censorship is bull; nobody 'owns' the internet.

This is Tor.
http://www.torproject.org/index.html.en
If they take 'em down, put 'em back up.  The wars between the Industrial Societies and the Few Pre industrial/Agrarian societies are nearly over.  The wars between us, the members of the Information Society, and the Industrial Societies are just beginning.
Respect the information.

Pure energy
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1jywq_information-societywhats-on-your-mi_music

>>5
lol what shitty oversimplified connections

Hack the official chinese government site and put up porn and falun gong propaganda and such. I'm sure someone on here can do it.

>>7
You wanna support that, or do you just make shitty oversimplified posts?

>>9
Industrial societies fought each other in the past, this contradicts your theory therefore it is total bullshit.

>>10
As did hunter gatherer, and agrarian societies.  That there is war during ages between rival factions, in no way contradicts that there are wars resulting from the paradigm shifts.  The American civil war is an example.  And it's happening again.  Now. 
I'm not generally one to be rude, and I almost never get shitty in threads first, but your tone has, IMO, granted me license to say this.  You're either really dumb, or a troll.  Either way you're giving me the opportunity to write about the most important thing going on in the world right now, so shoot your mouth off some more.  Please.

>>11
Industrialisation is a blanket term for 1000s of technological improvements and other changes such as the actual physical changes that are needed to put it into practice, all of which vary widely depending on circumstance and all of which take varying amounts of time to spread through a society. Britain of the 1850s where people still thought disease was caused by bad smells is a world away from countries from the 1950s onwards which had full access to modern philosophy of science, both were industrialised in some ways more than others, neither enjoyed the benefits of modern paradigm shifts.

If anything there is more of a spectrum from pre-industrial to industrial to information categories and even then this doesn't cover other factors such as the nature of the economy, the political culture, military and diplomatic tensions or the entirely inexplicable.

With all this in mind there are too many problems with rooting a major cause of war to differences in the prevailing economic sector.

Also, niggers.

^* African Americans

>>12
Wow.  Needless to say, after your first two posts, I wasn't expecting such a great response.  Except of course for the niggers comment.  Any more of that and I'm done.
I only take exception with your assertion that "there are too many problems with rooting a major cause of war to differences in the prevailing economic sector" assuming that by "prevailing economic sector" you mean the types of societies(HG-Agrarian-Industrial-Info)I mentioned.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that I'm painting with a broad brush, but big pictures require broad brushes, and the history of mankind is a pretty big picture.  I also understand that this kind of historical analysis is, to continue the metaphor, an exercise in painting by numbers wherein the artist is choosing many of the numbers based on intuition and other nonempirical input.  In other words, my interpretation of history, its effect on the present, and how it will influence the future is, like everyone's, based on a speculative vision.  Otherwise, history's just an incoherent list of events and their dates, each influenced by a practically infinite number of factors.  Who knows why Napoleon was routed at Waterloo.  He may have had a screaming case of crotch rot that factored more significantly than we'll ever know.
Still, we try.  We create our realities, and if there really is an objective truth, then I recon sometimes we nail it, and sometimes we fuck it up so bad it takes centuries to recover.  Still, we're driven to try.  And though saying the complexity is an overwhelming obstacle is very Daoist, and certainly safer, it doesn't do much for progress.  Put even more simply, you're right, I don't Know shit.  But given this context, the shit I talk is no less valid than anybody else's shit, so to be fairly judged, it must be judged not only on the accuracy of the empirical data, but the perceived quality, reason, and resonance of its deductions.
  This being said, as the subject is war, and as my primary perspective is that of a warrior, I will address the effect that these paradigm shifts have on the martial capabilities of societies.   But I've made my first points, and am interested in your reaction.

Also, niggers.

^* African Americans

>>14
We have limited minds and must use mental aids to make sense of an unfathomably complex world, we also have some level of mental capacity and don't need to oversimplify to the extent you have. Perhaps "inaccurate" was a better term, the argument that technology which gives military/political advantages to a country will give it an advantage over less advanced countries until said countries adopt the technology themselves is a more simple yet more accurate argument since it does not unnecessarily imply such countries have an advantage everywhere all the time or that war is inevitable.

>historical analysis is...an exercise in painting by numbers wherein the artist is choosing many of the numbers...
>We create our realities
>saying the complexity is an overwhelming obstacle is very Daoist
>the shit I talk is no less valid than anybody else's
>my primary perspective is that of a warrior

Um.

http://www.iwantapal.com/

>>17 mental aids

Lulz.  >>17 has the mental AIDS!

>>19
That's cold, bro. You hurt me deep, right in the ticker.

>>20
He's right.  That's why I didn't respond.
Acclinis falsis animus meliora recusat