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Welfare vs Charity

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-05 7:54

This issue bothers me more than anything nowadays, so let's have debate.

So why should a person be FORCED to help someone else? If someone needs help, they can always ask for charity.

Name: OP 2010-01-12 15:04

You just proved you know shit about Ethics, shit about Economy, shit about the Constitution of the United States, and shit about why US is currently in the shithole it is in.

You think the US now is actually a Capitalistic country? Actually running on a free market? It is mixed as hell and the socialist mixture is the cause of all the shits today you and every other ignorant morons try to blame on Capitalism and the free market.

And Ethics, do you even know what is Ethics? WHY is something morally good? or evil? Why is something a virtue or a vice? You preach Greed and Ambition are vices when they are virtues. You preach that slavery and robbery are justified as long as they serve some cause you deem the greater good. All your ethical beliefs are based on faith instead of reason. You are the one who is preaching evil. And you pull some bad metaphor from LoTR to prove you point?

The Constitution of the United States was founded on MY philosophy. The nations that was founded on YOUR philosophy was Communist Russia and Nazi Germany.

The reason why US is still left standing today as #1 even though it has fallen so far from what the Founders have intended, is because Americans still innately believe the philosophical principles this country was founded upon, that every individual, because they are human begins, have the inalienable Right to pursue their own life and happiness. The man and woman who held that belief even though they are assailed by today's media and society from all sides telling them that they have no right to their lives and that service to others, the nation, the poor..etc. is the only justification for their existence, they are the ones who is carrying this country. Your philosophy and your kind are what is responsible for the evil and disgrace that is perpetrated by today's media  and politicians, the evil and disgrace that is the foundation of countless dictatorships, theocracies, and socialist states in human history. And if not corrected and everything goes soar, for the collapse of this country.

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