Afghanistan

The situation in afghanistan is difficult. there's no real reason why we're there. i think the main reason for UK/US presence in the country is that they're trying to set up a democratic governing system. problem is that the afghans really don't want one, nor do they like outsiders occupying their land. the UK has had multiple experiences fighting the afghans and have had alot of trouble in that region, mainly because they're such dedicated, bastard fighters; who will literally fight tooth and claw to get you the fuck out of there. they actually developed a tactic, called butcher and bolt, which they employed against towns and such, as the name implies, they run and kill a load of people, the get the fuck out of there. and it worked pretty well. now though it's impossible to employ such dirty tactics and avoid war crime accusations thanks to NATO. basically we have a load of troops over there trying to maintain control over the regions while some dipshits far far away decides what the best course of action is. while the natives are getting more and more pissed off. it's a fucking shambles.

TL;DR shit is fucked

"Because there's limited amount of resources."

But, of course, international capitalists are able to manage without petty geography getting in their way.

" Also, the entitlements that go out to illegal and legal immigrants alike add to the huge debt of the national government."

I don't know if this is true, and to be honest I don't care. if someone is motivated enough to spend their life's savings on travelling in a cargo container 6000Km to get to where I live because it is better clearly there are bigger issues than "they're taking our benefits" Also, illegal immigrants don't have an easy life here, given they aren't allowed out of their prison camps.

Also, please give me a couple of examples of governments that aren't in massive debt, because I don't know of any. If they do exist though, please tell me, as I'd be genuinely interested to know of them.

"But of course, I'd like to gut the entitlement system altogether, no matter if you're born here or not. "

Damn anarchists. I think personally there should be a place where there is no government, where you can choose to live, but simultaneously there should also be a country which has national healthcare, and infrastructure. Something along the lines of socialism but with some capitalism too.

>>41
I don't know if this is true, and to be honest I don't care.
It is. And you should care.
if someone is motivated enough to spend their life's savings on travelling[sic] in a cargo container 6000Km to get to where I live because it is better clearly there are bigger issues than "they're taking our benefits" Also, illegal immigrants don't have an easy life here, given they aren't allowed out of their prison camps.
The benefits attract them here, but also because trade agreements like NAFTA have made the lives of Mexican farmers utterly shitty, and then we wonder why they hop across the border into Texas.
Also, please give me a couple of examples of governments that aren't in massive debt, because I don't know of any. If they do exist though, please tell me, as I'd be genuinely interested to know of them.
The United States paid off all its debt obligations off after Andrew Jackson killed the Second Bank of the United States. Of course there was a recession that followed, but the nation was debt-free for the first and only time of its history. No government is without debt today because they've all bought into the lie that you need a central bank to maintain prices and the national economy. But that's a story for another thread.
Damn anarchists. I think personally there should be a place where there is no government, where you can choose to live, but simultaneously there should also be a country which has national healthcare, and infrastructure. Something along the lines of socialism but with some capitalism too.
Gutting the entitlement system has nothing to do with "anarchists". I advocate for a small government, not the total dismantlement of one.

Also, you posted in the wrong thread.

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We already are controlling part of the environment, or at least influencing it mostly in a harmful way. Ever heard of nuclear waste, greenhouse gas, deforestation, endangered species... ? Gee, I sure can't understand why we should care either. It is not like our economy lifestyle depend on how hospitable the environment is anyway, right?

>>43
We already are controlling part of the environment, or at least influencing it mostly in a harmful way.
I can agree somewhat with this, however things have certainly improved.
Ever heard of nuclear waste, greenhouse gas, deforestation, endangered species... ?
Nuclear waste is nowhere a problem as it used to be. The only real dangerous time that nuclear energy posed was in 1979 with three mile island, and 1986 with Chernobyl. Even so, it's been quite a stable resource and certainly over the six decades of use has proved it to be a stable resource.

Greenhouse gas is why we're able to live in the first place. If there weren't any, we'd all be dead on a frozen ice ball not unlike the planet Hoth from the Star Wars series.

Deforestation is certainly a big issue. Corporatism is mostly to blame for that.

Endangered species are being actively protected by wild life foundations worldwide.

Gee, I sure can't understand why we should care either.
Stop being alarmist.
It is not like our economy lifestyle depend on how hospitable the environment is anyway, right?
If the next Year Without a Summer happens it's not going to be because of human involvement.