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Afghanistan

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-20 10:46

The situation in afghanistan is difficult. there's no real reason why we're there. i think the main reason for UK/US presence in the country is that they're trying to set up a democratic governing system. problem is that the afghans really don't want one, nor do they like outsiders occupying their land. the UK has had multiple experiences fighting the afghans and have had alot of trouble in that region, mainly because they're such dedicated, bastard fighters; who will literally fight tooth and claw to get you the fuck out of there. they actually developed a tactic, called butcher and bolt, which they employed against towns and such, as the name implies, they run and kill a load of people, the get the fuck out of there. and it worked pretty well. now though it's impossible to employ such dirty tactics and avoid war crime accusations thanks to NATO. basically we have a load of troops over there trying to maintain control over the regions while some dipshits far far away decides what the best course of action is. while the natives are getting more and more pissed off. it's a fucking shambles.

TL;DR shit is fucked

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-23 19:33

>>13,16
While every group of supporters of some politician always have their *ahem* "issues", and some of what you described is probably true, albeit a bit exaggerated, nevertheless it's not a complete falsehood of that of what they're saying.

Now, I know the status quo isn't perfect either, but if you look over the long term, things don't seem to look too good and they probably could end up being a lot better than they are. Now as for "conspiracy nuts" well watching conspiracy videos and reading articles are fun, but for me just purely that, fun.

I do believe that the politicians that are a part of the "status quo" believe legitimately that what they're doing is the right thing to do, and not by way of conspiracy or cohortion. And it's true a lot of government programs and departments are created (originally) in well intentioned, good faith. Over time though, they begin to do more harm than good with over regulation and restrictions. It causes quite a bit of stagnation because of it.

As for the war front, it's extremely wasteful and ends up making people less safe and secure because of it. There are frequently terrorist plots because we're over there on their land, and the longer there are forces there the more that gives them incentive  to attack on American soil. I don't think that's some conspiracy theory, sounds more like human nature to me.

And I certainly don't truly believe that Bush was some reptilian, I chuckle at the thought of whoever came up with this nonsense.

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