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hould israel get a king?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-05 16:50

i think it should get a king
then it will be like the bible

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-05 23:27

Yes, they need a repleted autocratic leviathan figure to put some order and he should form a new state religion that brings all abrahamic religions under one national sect.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-05 23:48

Isn't that their whole gig?  That's the guy they're waiting for.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-06 6:12

>>3
I'd be perfect for that role, unfortunately I'm not even sure what language they speak down there so I doubt anyone would take me seriously.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-06 7:35

>>4
That would be Hebrew, though I don't see that as your major stumbling block.  I'd be worried that historically, the last dude who tried that got strung up.  Or so they say.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-06 14:07

I'd go for it but that circumcision thing freaks me out

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-06 17:00

>>5
King David is revered by both Muslims and Jews. Following in his example and supporting religious plurality would probably reduce the chances of this happening.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-06 17:28

The word Holocaust means sacrifice consumed by fire, a burnt offering, one of seven types of sacrifices in the Torah, described in Leviticus as a sacrifice for the atonement and forgiveness of sin.  Self sacrifice signifies complete dedication and surrender to God, as instead of using animals, people willingly give up their lives for the complete forgiveness of others. The sacrifice was historically lied about to make people believe it already happened so that it wouldn't have to be carried out. The Talmud claims four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar (Gittin 57b) and 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans (Gittin 58a), despite there being less than 16 million Jews in the world at the time.  The October 31, 1919 article in 'The American Hebrew' claims 6 million Jews died in the Great War.  This mass self sacrifice was believed as necessary to absolve the Jews of past, present, and future wrongdoings to signify the time of the Messiah.

Jews are taught to continually believe in the coming Messiah: "I believe with full faith in the coming of the Messiah. And even though he tarries, I await his arrival with every day." In the Torah, Messiah is not a supernatural being, but the word for a physical ruler; Cyrus the Great was once called Messiah.  The Messiah is any real person who uses leadership and politics to restore Israel and bring the Jewish people together.

The Talmud says the age of Messiah starts starts a time of freedom, peace and ultimate goodness, bringing the world to complete perfection by returning the Jews to Israel so they can build the Third Temple. The Mishneh Torah states, "The last anointed one will stand up from among his descendants and save Israel in the end. The anointed King is destined to stand up and restore the Kingdom to the first sovereignty. Do not imagine that the anointed King must perform miracles and signs and create new things in the world or resurrect the dead and so on. If he succeeded and gathered the strayed ones of Israel together, this is indeed the anointed one for certain, and he will mend the entire world to worship the Lord together."

Christian teachings try to avoid this by interpreting Messiah as a symbolic king of all people who absolves spiritual sin by self sacrifice to stop the need for physical sacrifice, but this misses the point, as the Torah says both sacrificial burning and the ruler called Messiah must be real, meaning the events leading to it can be physically planned and carried out at any time as a political goal based on Tikkun Olam, the belief that Jews must continually repair and perfect the world.

The only man whose actions lead to an age where the Jewish people, after a mass sacrificial offering by fire, forgiven of wrongdoing, were returned to Israel to restore its rule as a sovereign nation with enough political power to change the world in its image, is Hitler.

Hitler is the Messiah.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-06 21:11

>>8
The Talmud philosophy is fascinating isn't it? Jews are wonderful people.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-07 4:30

>>8
Wow.  Even if all the facts aren't correct, I'll bump for an example of brilliant perversity.

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