Not socialist, but an enormous spender. It's all for corporate welfare instead of individual welfare, which makes people happy.
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Anonymous2008-06-18 4:40
>>40
context >>41
I merely proposed that there is little difference between state capitalism and socialism in a democracy. Both consist of excessive state intervention in the economy done in the name of "the people".
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Anonymous2008-06-19 2:30
>>42
The retarded loser never tires. Still denying reality, eh? Keep up the I'M SO PATHETICALLY RETARDED I THINK STAYT MEANS SOSHALIZM EVEN THOUGH FOR EONS I HAVE BEEN SHOWN PROOF PROVING MY RETARDATION WRONG!!!
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Anonymous2008-06-19 12:01
>43
Sorry but you used the word "retard", so I have no choice but to completely ignore your argument until you remove all ad hominem logical fallacies.
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Anonymous2008-06-19 18:27
>>42
Context? what context, americas fucked view of politics?
How are state capitalism and socialism the same thing, yes they both involve state intervention, but on hugely differing scales. State capitalism is still exactly that, Capitalism.
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Anonymous2008-06-19 18:27
>>43
Lurker here.
Do you seriously think this passes as an argument to >>42's reponse to >>41?
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socialistfag!cBA.fxfg1Y2008-06-19 18:35
>>46
It doesn't no. It completely makes his arguments redundant.
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Anonymous2008-06-19 21:07
>>46
Welcome to 4chan, which hates Libertarians even more than it hates White nationalists.
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Anonymous2008-06-20 0:19
>>46
As a "lurker", you don't realize that the same argument has been visited a million times over and over again, with the retard proclaiming every system which isn't "free"-market fundamentalism as "socialist", making up his own definitions etc.
>>44
Sorry, but you are a retard - that is the only way possible for you to believe in the delusional crap you do, so it in no way is fallacious. Ignoring arguments, of course, isn't something new for you, is it, retarded loser?
But, but, the Dems true nature isn't socialist.....
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Anonymous2008-06-20 15:24
Market foreskins will adjust.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 1:25
>>56
Actually, it isn't, unless you are a retard screaming STAYT MEANZ SOSHALISM!! I DUN'T UNDERSTAND DEFINITIONS SO I IGNORE THEM AND MAKE UP MY OWN!!! BUSH IS LEFT-WING SOSHALIST!!. If you are such a retard, then I'm afraid there is no cure.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 3:33
>>60
So you believe nationalising major industries has nothing to do with socialism and socialism has not earned a reputation for doing such things in any way.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 3:59
>>61
Jack likes apples, Jill likes apples, so Jack is Jill.
Keep up the fallacious denial, retarded loser.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 5:56
>>62
The murderer has fingerprint A, Jack has fingerprint A, but it is a logical fallacy to assume Jack is the murderer. I see.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 7:37
>>63
How many fucking times do you have to be told the definitions, you pathetically retarded loser? The example was there to show a similarity didn't make them equal because they were fundamentally different from the very basis, but as a moron you again failed to understand this extremely simple explanation. Keep crying.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 8:44
>>64
Please state the definition of socialism that you go by, so we can all be on the same page.
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Anonymous2008-06-21 10:04
>>65
I'm pretty sure it isn't STAAAYT KROOONIYIZIM INEFFISHUNT BUSH IS SOSHALIST!!!!
Nationalising industries is not necessarily indicative of socialism, but since socialism is literally communal ownership of the means of production, well actually nationalising industries is socialism if by "communal" you mean democratically elected state.
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Anonymous2008-06-22 8:42
>>71
Socialism can exist without statism, and statism can exist without socialism, therefore counting any form of etatist act as "socialist" is simply ignorant.
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Anonymous2008-06-22 9:20
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." Winston Churchill
Socialism is fail.
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Libertaryan2008-06-22 9:30
>>73
Oh man, that proves everyone is soshalist and soshalizm is rong!!! thanks a lot!!!!!
>>75
Indeed, the average retarded libertarian thought is so obviously fail, as exposed by their repeated retardation.
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Anonymous2008-06-22 14:05
Oh yes, America should go full capitalism. I would just love ride the Microsoft Bus™ on the Monsanto Express Way™ to the Sony Public Library™. Afterwards we can go for a walk in Walmart Park™. Mastercard University™ sounds like a great place to get a degree and we get excellent health care at the Ford Motors Hospital™.
Capitalism is great ... if you're one of the Capitalists ... if you want what the Capitalists are willing to make, distribute and sell. Otherwise, Capitalism sucks assballs and in this declining age of the Holy American Empire, the bulk of the native population is going to learn EXACTLY what that means.
Keep worshiping that "free market", you fucking Fundies. Worship the thing that's now killing you.