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China thinks it invented everything.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 12:14

There is no evidence to suggest that China had any scientific evaluation of chemistry other than trial and error until such practices were introduced to them. Gunpowder was not invented but discovered by chance and improved through trial and error and most of these improvements and the development of the first firearms were made in the middle east.

They didn't invent woodblocks and thus weren't the first to print using woodblocks. Printing with woodblocks is not the same as printing with a printing press.
http://touregypt.net/featurestories/fabrics.htm

The chinese did invent a way of using wood pulp to make paper, but this is just 1 material in a long line of materials which were discovered could be used to make paper. The first material was papyrus, thus only the ancient Egyptians can claim the title "invented paper".
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=papyrus&meta=

The compass was invented by the Olmecs before 1000 BC and it may have been invented seperately later by europeans. For 100s of years the compass never entered the middle east, yet just a few decades after it's first appearance in europe in 1180 the muslims began to use it. The Chinese can neither claim they invented it first or that they gave it to the rest of the world, only that they invented it seperately.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=olmec+compass&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22european+compass%22+%22independent+invention%22&meta=

China is a rich ancient culture and has nothing to be ashamed of so I can see the allure to people who have no achievements of their own to claim the achievements of "their" culture. As depressing as it might be to see people stoop to this level of delusion to appease their anxieties, there is nothing more ridiculous than having to lie about your culture to aggrandize yourself more. There are no further depths of self pity.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-09 14:29

>>80
Modern greeks are swarthy communists, nothing like the glorious ancient Greeks.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-09 16:14

>>81 There's a thing called irony...

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-12 11:23

>>82
The Greeks of whom Homer wrote were a blond-haired, blue-eyed Aryan people.  Read the Iliad if you doubt this, paying close attention to the descriptions of the characters.  The Greeks were driven north and west when the Turks colonized Greece after the fall of Byzantium.

Their replacements are of 98% pure Anatolian sandnigger stock, hairy, swarthy, hairy, bandy-legged, inbred, superstitious IQ-70 Turd World peasants who happen to speak a degenerate and bastardized form of Greek, written with Greek letters, sprinkled with Turkish loanwords.  The blood of Leonidas does not flow in their veins.  They call themselves Greeks, but it is false.  If a cat has kittens in an oven, we may call them biscuits, but that does not make it so.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-12 15:55

>>83 I'm greek but I can't say i dissagree - even though your comment is full of racist generalizations. Greeks also do think they have invented everything. That's why I put up comment >>80 . I'm probably more annoyed by you when I hear greeks preptend they are the originators of everything. Especialy since I live here and I have to face their stupidity every day. One thing though - greeks seem to be very bright outside greece. I can't explain it but there are many examples from most countries.

 The funny thing with this thread is that it is absolutely normal for any peoples with 1000+yo long history to have made important inventions and innovations. It's just a matter of longer 'measuremet'. It's like saying: 'Nation A that is 500yo invented 5 great things while nation B that is 2000 years old invented 20 great things, so nation B is brighter because it invented more things. This is totaly false because it is too oversimplified. It doesn't even take under consideration the historical set and settings.

Anyway. In my opinion, any time you talk about a nation you are oversimpifying and the only way you can be driven to a correct conclusion by thinking like this is by pure luck.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-12 15:58

ps. Nations do not invent. People do. Being proud of someone else's inventions just because you were born in the same area and speak the same language is plain stupid. I think i can only be proud of things I do.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-13 18:42

>>83
How did these ape-like beasts manage to drive out the superior aryan Greeks?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-13 20:16

>>86
And you can't do shit since they're savages.

Name: Ano/\/y\/\ous 2011-02-15 5:20

Perhaps I can shed light on this subject OP. This might sound strange, but please, read through without skipping.

It is impossible to know who truly created anything.
It may have been a silly hypothesis given by an amateur to which a master turned into a theory. To who gets the credit? Such a question is rhetorical since they both have parts in the situation. This should illuminate the idea that knowing exactly who made an idea possible is completely up to chance or, in my example, not useful, knowable, or logically applicable. Now, this uncertainty should be enough to cause any intelligent individual to disregard the type of question entirely.

Now, this situation is applicable in just the very instant the possibility arises in every situation I can conceive. This doesn't even consider the obfustication further down the road when perhaps credit is stolen, as is rumored with Einstein, or that someone's work wasn't really so original, as is the case with Dr. King. It also doesn't consider the effects of what happens to information over hundreds of years. Disaster often causes this....

So you see...

History is a fickle thing. To say the Chinese did or didn't do something is entirely pointless as the question of who invented what is impossible to consider logically. What is important is whats happening now.

Yadda yadda trolls

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-15 15:30

>>88
well said

Name: Matrix Babe 2011-03-05 5:32

Ahem. SO, bitches....
China's not actually a dumb place. But it's got dumbarses running it. FREE TIBET WITH YOUR BRAINS. STEAL THE DOCUMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND SAVE THE WORLD IF YOU CAN.

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Ready for the revolution?

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-05 7:07

>>88
What happened in the past determines our decisions now. Also OP made it clear he is only bothered by where technology came from, just people who feel the need to pretend their culture invented everything.

History is the only source of facts from which to draw conclusions about economics, social science and political science, history also provides information important for various philosophical schools of thought such as the philosophy of science as well as branches of science involved in the development of new technology and practices for industry, by looking at how technology developed in the past we can analyze our current R&D strategies and avoid the same mistakes, by recording how craftsmen in the past solved problems with the most basic technology we have a larger library of ideas with which to fill the brains of our engineers and make them more innovative.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-09 12:21

China didn't invent everything! Maybe make everything, but invent? Bullshit!

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-30 1:22

>>90
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!
YOUR AWESOM!!!

Name: 蔵八宝 2011-05-06 4:15

Name: リドスプレー 2011-05-06 4:15

Name: Anonymous 2011-05-06 5:41

>>90
What documents do you have in mind? What about the socialists and anarchists who keep handing out more state power to corporations in the name of the working class? Should they be murdered also?

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