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Why is libertarianism so infallible?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-04 3:45

Libertarianism is the inclusion of every sapient being into the decision making process and all that logically follows from that. Utilitarianism is the objective of ensuring the most happiness for all sapient beings and all that logically follows from that. Sometimes they compliment each other, other times they contradict.

Discuss.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-30 9:21

>>120
You cannot accuse me of using weasel words when you talk of "freedom to the masses" which is an ambiguous term that could mean anything from tyranny of the majority to absolute economic freedom. You will need to be specific.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-31 10:06

>>121
As in, freedom [as in personal freedoms, not FREE MARKUTS!!!!] not for the select-few percentage but for everyone. That's a clearly understandable phrase, which your ideology can only respond with the weasal words you cried yourself. So please, proceed with your sequence of ignorance and delusional drooling. It serves as a nice example to show what the average LIBERTARYAN is like, you know, people so retarded that they cry BUSH IZ LEFT-WING SOSHALIST!!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 3:03

>>122
Under libertarianism all have complete personal freedoms. You are permitted to be a transexual prostitute for instance, which I assume is your primary issue of concern.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 7:49

>>123
Yes, a niger working for minimum wage (which would disappear/be far lower in a LIBERTARYAN world) will be equally free with a multi-billionaire, right? right??

I think even someone as retarded as you should've been able to see this simple contradiction of the ideology you cry about endlessly.

Name: Libertaryan 2008-06-01 8:15

>>124
No it will be alright because when STAYT is gone MARKET FORSAZ will magically make everything alright. You don't have to think about problems, that are dictated to occur by logic, history or economic theory because they will just be gone like that. This is why LIBERTARYANIZM is such a good ideology for uneducated retards who don't understand such issues in the first place - they're going to be magically gone!!!

Name: SOSHALIST 2008-06-01 9:18

>>126
Because obviously the STAYT will magically fix every problem MARKET FORSAZ can't.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 11:41

>>126
Aww look, the poor unoriginal retard tries to copy the style that owned him once again, and fails once again aswell, because his retarded mind doesn't understand that statism != socialism, despite being told countless times. Enjoy your retardation, buddy.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 11:41

>>126
The state exists, DA INVISIBAL HAND is something like fairies, or god.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 12:29

>>126
You can have socialism without state, you can't have LIBERTARYANIZM without FREE MARKATS.

Please, cry more and enjoy your checkmate.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 14:33

>>128
in b4 christfag/muslim libertaryans

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-03 16:09

Market forces are merely the application of the laws of supply and demand. Why are you so fearful of them? Because you do not supply any goods or services to the economy? Perhaps you should try working harder instead of whining harder!

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-03 16:31

>>131
Instead of crying about imaginary MARKET FORSAZ WILL FIX EVERYTHING!!! you should learn a thing or two, maybe then you won't look as retarded, and won't have to cry like this after every factual argument exposes your ignorance, since if you knew a thing or two you wouldn't be owned so hard.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-04 11:33

>>132
The bulk of your trolls overwhelmingly consists of telling people they are crying which suggests reaction formation. Furthermore you exclusively troll people you believe are stormfags or secretly racist, which can only mean you actually care about the issue at hand. If you were a true troll who didn't care about the issue he is trolling you would troll multiple issues, considerring the volume of text you put in to trolling it appears to me you are severely "butthurt" by these stormfags.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-04 12:28

>>133
Prime example of an incapable retard crying.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-05 1:45

>>134
The bulk of your trolls overwhelmingly consists of telling people they are crying which suggests reaction formation. Furthermore you exclusively troll people you believe are stormfags or secretly racist, which can only mean you actually care about the issue at hand. If you were a true troll who does not care about the issue he is trolling you would troll multiple issues, considerring the volume of text you put into trolling it appears to me you are severely "butthurt" by these stormfags.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-05 9:17

Clearly, the retarded libertarians are now acknowledging their perpetual ownage, hence their new-found way of crying.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-05 14:01

>>136
>new-found way of crying.
You're like clockwork.
The bulk of your trolls overwhelmingly consists of telling people they are crying which suggests reaction formation. Furthermore you exclusively troll people you believe are stormfags or secretly racist, which can only mean you actually care about the issue at hand. If you were a true troll who does not care about the issue he is trolling you would troll multiple issues, considerring the volume of text you put into trolling it appears to me you are severely "butthurt" by these stormfags.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-05 18:21

>>137
Said the retard copy-pasting a wall of text exposing his retardation, and is posting naturally because his "arguments" were owned so much he figured it doesn't make any difference.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-06 16:27

Try posting something without using the words "cry", "retard" and "butthurt".

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-06 19:48

>>139
Try posting something with facts, and not post of denial exposing your retardation, and then get butthurt and cry after getting owned. I know you aren't bright enough to understand, but all those words are there for a reason, my epically retarded friend. You should think for a second before crying BAWW AD HOMINEM right after you screamed BUSH IS LEFT-WING SOCIALIST. I hope despite your retardation you'll understand at least your own condition one day, though for you understanding politics and economics is clearly a long shot.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 11:48

>>140
But I have already posted facts, many. For instance this exerpt from >>61.

***

Here is my explanation.
"Socialism is the belief that the economy should be run by the people, most socialists believe this ought to be done through state control of the economy. I believe this is an awful mistake because it circumvents economic freedom, is inefficient since it ignores the invisible hand of the free market and makes corruption extremely easy."

And the Dictionary's...
"a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."

The jump from "community" to "people" and "means of production" to "economy" isn't exactly that far. You seriously need to start agreeing with me before you embaress yourself further.

***

You gave no counter-argument to this.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 14:41

>>141
How many times do I have to tell you - repeating disproven retardation again and again doesn't make it true, and countless counter-arguments completely disproving your delusions were given, but I wonder why you ignored them? Probably the same reason why you have such retarded beliefs in the first place.

Let's see how many times you managed to expose your ignorance in this one post (though it doesn't really matter, since this isn't anything new for you)

Firstly, your "definition" includes a part "I TINK DIS IZ AWFUL!!! which is the first time I'm ever seeing in a "definition", but then again, you're a retard so I'll let this pass along with your complete inability to spell properly. And also, your personal delusions are very funny in this regard due to MAGIK INVISIBLE HAND and crying about corruption when you're proposing to leave everything to magically produce the best result possible, but with such tiny mind I see that you can't notice the fallacies.

But, saying COMMUNITY=PEOPLE=STAYT and then saying anything perpetrating statism is socialist, is retarded beyond any measure. How is Anarchist-Communism not socialist, my retarded friend? How is libertarian socialism capitalist in your tiny mind? And the fact that you equate means of production with economy yet once fucking more shows you know nothing about economy. Do you want me to continue with all these arguments I've posted before to your delusional crap and never once you were able to answer?

As you can see, arguing with delusions against reality is a tough job, but with an adequate amount of stupidity you have managed to deny truth so far. With that puny intelligence, I assume you'll continue to embarrass yourself for a long, long time. Keep crying BUSH IZ LEFT-WING SOSHALIST.

You cannot have an opinion without having knowledge. This retard is the proof.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 15:50

>>142
You cannot have an opinion without having knowledge. This retard is the proof.
Truer words were never spoken. You failed to make a single non-fallacious point in the entire wall of text.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 17:07

>>142
I have decided to completely ignore all arguments which contain the words "butthurt", "retard" and "cry" or ad hominem statements. When you repeat your entire argument without such things I will reply.
Sorry.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 17:57

>>143
Why not point out the fallacies instead of crying? Oh wait, you can't because they are fucking facts.

>>144
Finally, the retard acknowledges that he can't cry more against truth. The arguments here were posted several other times, and you ignored them again and again with many stupid excuses. Calling you retarded isn't a personal attack, it's the truth because no one else could believe Bush could be socialist.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 19:34

>>145
I have decided to completely ignore all arguments which contain the words "butthurt", "retard" and "cry" or ad hominem statements. When you repeat your entire argument without such things I will reply.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 19:37

>>146
Sorry, buddy - as I said your retardation is a fact, and these arguments have been posted before AND you failed to answer them then too, but you didn't cite BAWW UR HURTAN MAH FEELINGS then. Clearly your retarded mind couldn't come up with a creative way to sidestep truth this time, hence your newfound way of crying. Keep it up, tubbo.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 19:39

>>147
I have decided to completely ignore all arguments which contain the words "butthurt", "retard" and "cry" or ad hominem statements. When you repeat your entire argument without such things I will reply.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-07 19:46

>>148

Sorry, buddy - as I said your retardation is a fact, and these arguments have been posted before AND you failed to answer them then too, but you didn't cite BAWW UR HURTAN MAH FEELINGS then. Clearly your retarded mind couldn't come up with a creative way to sidestep truth this time, hence your newfound way of crying. Keep it up, tubbo.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-08 2:20

>>149
I have decided to completely ignore all arguments which contain the words "butthurt", "retard" and "cry" or ad hominem statements. When you repeat your entire argument without such things I will reply.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-08 7:51

>>150
Still running away from ownage, eh, retarded loser? Come back when you have the mental capacity to answer.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-08 14:38

>>151
When you repeat your entire argument without the words "butthurt", "retard", "cry" and other ad hominem statements I will reply.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-08 15:25

>>152
That doesn't explain why you didn't answer them when they were posted before, then you hadn't found a way of running away like UR HURTAN MAH FEELINGS!!!

Sorry retard, unlike you I don't deny truth, and your retardation is a solid fact proven again and again, not only by your extremely stupid delusions, but also by your complete inability to comprehend.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 1:15

>>153
When you repeat your entire argument without the words "butthurt", "retard", "cry" and other ad hominem statements I will reply.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 3:05

>>38
I'm a faggot. Try again, computer engineer.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 8:45

>>154

That doesn't explain why you didn't answer them when they were posted before, then you hadn't found a way of running away like UR HURTAN MAH FEELINGS!!!

Sorry retard, unlike you I don't deny truth, and your retardation is a solid fact proven again and again, not only by your extremely stupid delusions, but also by your complete inability to comprehend.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 9:18

>>156
When you repeat your entire argument without the words "butthurt", "retard", "cry" and other ad hominem statements I will reply.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 9:25

>>37
>>155
Microsoft isn't stifling competition, it is based largely on research and development which is an investment in which returns are proportional to the total deposit. Also if their research had no value their temporary near-monopoly wouldn't be such a big deal would it? Compare today with 10 years ago, integrated circuits are literally ricocheting off the walls and crawling out of people's assholes while they're asleep and mac has a cult following even though it's a pretty shitty OS, if microsoft's intention was to monopolised all computers everywhere all the time they certainly have not succeeded.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 9:25

Investment value is proportional to the total deposit rather.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-09 9:39

>>158
How can you read the entire thread from the very beginnig and yet completely miss the resolution of that conversation?

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