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So why do YOU like Ron Paul so much?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-25 14:29

I truly want to know.  All bullshit, flaming, and racial slurs aside (which, I know, is impossible on 4chan), why do you (or anyone) like Ron Paul so much?  I just don't see what is so revolutionary about his campaign.  It seems he is sort of a Jeffersonian Republican... but if you know American history, you'd know that that didn't really work out so well.  His stance against the war is admirable, but not revolutionary.  A candidate like Gravel is far more appealing to me, with the National Initiative and his economic stance.

Name: Largo Andante 2007-11-28 1:10

The Constitution is not the be-all end-all of the proper role of government; objective moral principle is.

It is absurd to claim that enslaving man to his fellow man is somehow "ensuring liberty."  That some are too ignorant to take care of themselves is not justification to violate the liberty of those who are not.  If they make bad deals, that's their problem.  There's nothing wrong with those of us who know better taking advantage of that situation.

Liberty is liberty in EVERY SITUATION for EVERY PERSON.  You would do well to familiarize yourself with the writings of the eminent 20th-century Russian-American philosopher Ayn Rand.

"However, those same owners were grossly exploiting the labor of the workers without giving fair compensation and without any regard to the safety and working conditions in mines, lumber mills and factories."

"Fair compensation" is whatever employer and employee can agree to.  The agreement was there, so the compensation was fair.

There is no "right" to a safe work environment: the workplace is private property, and the owner has every right to set it up as he pleases?  Don't like it?  Don't go there.  Just because you're between a rock and a hard place is not a justification for violating the rights of another.

And striking workers who refuse to leave when so ordered by the property owners are trespassers, and the government is quite right to side with the property owners in such a case.  You have the right to strike; I have the right to fire you and refuse admission to my property for whatever reason I please--it is, after all, my property.

"Mr. Paul's policy on the current credit crisis does not serve the cause of liberty because it unjustly punishes those that were caught in a massive manipulative scheme masterminded by those among the wealthiest citizens,"

No one held a gun to their head, so no one's rights were violated.  Your plan entails holding a gun to the heads of some, which means their rights would be violated.  That is unacceptable, and utterly despicable.

"this lead to a housing bubble and threatens to lead to an economic collapse that WILL occur if measures are not taken. Now THAT would be a violation of the liberty of the people."

No, it wouldn't.  No one's holding a gun to anyone's head.

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