1. Why is it wrong to kill a violent criminal but okay to kill an innocent fetus? I'm not particularly opposed to abortions, but it makes no sense that you rail against capital punishment while endorsing abortion.
2. Why do you despise Christianity but tell everyone else that their religions are beautiful and are to be respected? I don't understand how you can extol the greatness of science and education while while telling everyone (other than Christians) that their baseless beliefs should be protected. I'm generally opposed to religion, so I say if you're going to hate one of them, hate all of them.
3. Why is it wrong from conservatives to go on fear mongering about terrorism but it's okay for you to tell everyone the world is going to end because of global warming? Whether or not you believe in either of these supposed threats it's clear that both sides are using fear to manipulate people. Why not take the higher road if you're so educated and ethical?
4. Why do you like Mac so much?
5. Why do you believe the federal government can fix all of society's ills when it can barely deliver the mail? It has been proven throughout history that large central governments lead to corruption and abuse. Why do you continue to support big government?
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Anonymous2009-09-10 20:32
>>197
I'm with Philip K. Dick. Abortion should be legal until children learn Algebra. Until then, they should be classified as "pre-persons."
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Anonymous2009-09-11 3:56
>>200
So you admit religion was a good thing in the 7th century.
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Anonymous2009-09-11 15:36
Aren't authoritarian governments supposed to be homophobic? This is gay.
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Anonymous2009-09-11 21:13
>>202
And you admit we don't live in the 7th century any more. Super! Now we can be done with all that superstitious claptrap, finally allowing us to claim our intellectual superiority over the hajjis.
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Anonymous2009-09-12 1:04
>>204
Maybe, but you're still excessively biased against religion. You can solve this problem by admitting that Constantine was an awesome emperor who re-unified the empire and exterminated the huns.
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Anonymous2009-09-17 5:31
>>206
I'll admit all that, and still call you a soft-headed baby. Stop playing Rome:Total War quite so much, and start realizing that we live in the fucking 21st century.
itt: liberals and conservatives with no idea what liberalism & conservatism actually entail. ah, 4chan, you never fail to disappoint.
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Anonymous2009-09-21 1:01
The Bible supports abortion. not directly, of course, but it does not find the harm of a pregnant woman that results in the loss of a pregnancy (in essence, an abortion) to be any more sinful than hurting a woman who isnt pregnant
"When men have a fight and hurt a pregnant woman, so that she suffers a miscarriage, but no further injury, the guilty one shall be fined as much as the woman's husband demands of hum and he shall pay in the presence of the judges. But if injury ensues, you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooh, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." Exodus 21: 22-25
I'm a liberal, not because I dont like conservative ideals, but because the conservatives cant even read the goddamn bible LITERALLY correctly, much less interpret it worth two shits. It takes depths of deliberate ignorance to not even get THAT much right.
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Anonymous2009-09-25 8:09
To really understand the liberals you must get into the ideological root of the left and liberals.
The cultural and sociological side of the left is rooted in what we call "cultural-marxism", they believe that capitalism must be destroyed for the good of the future. But also believe that capitalism is rooted in western society and that therefore western civilization must be destroyed.
You might notice how they never complain about the sandniggers stance on abortion and capital punishment only the western one.
1. Criminals are bad for western society therefore they are good, meanwhile an increased population is good for western society and therefore bad. That's why it's AWWWW RITE to kill babies but not criminals.
2. Religion such as christianity creates an uniformity and altruism in the populace that is good for western society which means it's bad. However an increased muslim/whateverthefuck religion population creates cultural/ethnic conflicts which is bad therefore good.
3. They don't like the terrorism fearmongering because it shows us that foreign cultures/races are usually inferiour to us according to our present value system which actually is deeply rooted in christianity. Meanwhile Global warming fearmongering is good because it's proves the point that CAPITALISM/WESTERN SOCIETY = BAAAD.
4. Because they're gay, what can i say!
5. i honestly don't know.
This all might sound like conspiracy but it really isn't. Alot of the people who adhere to these sick degenerate values are not really aware of it but are intensively indoctrinated into it. However recently in time these things have started being used against the people who it really was meant to serve, for example the politically correct opposition to Israel. The jews have always been parasites on western society and therefore good, as a matter of fact one can argue whether the Politically correct movement is really a zionist movement seeing as how a free western society would be the biggest threat against the jews and their degenerate culture.
But now that the kikes have started massacring palestinians people have started shitting on them. One speculate it looks like the zionists are about to get eaten alive by their own frankenstein monster! However they are constantly trying to shove it in our throats that it's okay for the kikes to act this because they are parasites which makes them a victim.
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Anonymous2009-09-25 8:33
oh yeah and another thing.
If you believe in "taking a life is wrong" and want to refuse to kill a criminal who is very likely going to kill people if he gets out won't you yourself be indirectly responsible for the lifes he takes when you refuse to kill him?
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Anonymous2009-09-25 16:53
>>212
holy shit, you have no idea what half of those words mean do you?
you're just reciting shit you saw on tv or heard on the radio
"cultural-marxism" such bullshit I cant even believe someone could think it up
I don't really have anything against the left in it's original conception.
Problem is that it was born in a time where some people lived in shacks out in the woods and ate their own shit while others lived in gigantic castles made entirely out of diamonds.
Nowadays the major difference between rich and poor people is that rich people live in slightly bigger houses.
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Anonymous2009-09-25 17:59
>>214
I gotta be honest here, i have never ever heard KIKE, SANDNIGGERS or CULTURAL-MARXISM on tv or on the radio.
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Anonymous2009-09-26 7:10
>>212 >>213 >>215
There is certainly a minority of people who enjoy the delusion they are living in some kind of dystopia and they are heroically trying to overturn everything and create a utopia. However the conditions do not exist for anyone like them to gain some sort of power, I say "anyone like them" since current marxists/socialists/anarchists in America are not the worldly thugs who have experienced and dealt brutality first hand, they are usually deluded social outcasts due to serious character flaws and have lived a largely sheltered existence. >>214
>ur dumb
That's not a compelling counter-argument. Try again. >>216
Pretty much, though there are still many people who enjoy ingesting faeces. I believe one such individual frequents this forum and goes by the name "RedCream" but I haven't seen him around very much recently. >>217
I hear a lot about marxism and the occasional person calling everyone racist.
>>218
There is certainly a majority of people on this site who enjoy the delusion that their arrogance, unfounded assumptions, projections, and insults, are a rational foundation for argument.
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Anonymous2009-09-30 7:11
>>218
Sadly the conditions exist for absolutely anyone to gain any amount of power as long as they are not open about their opinions.
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Anonymous2009-09-30 8:39
Q4: Macs? I think you're thinking of English professors and homosexuals.
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Anonymous2009-10-05 7:43
wow....all i can say is, objectivists are a bunch of retards,
it's so funny to see this losers rail against taxes....brrrrr damnation.
get the hint boys its over socialism has come to america, the birther movement has lost, and soon the co
Asking a libfag about his ethics is like asking a snake about his long slender legs.
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Anonymous2009-10-06 7:41
>>224
I don't get it. You weren't talking about snipers and you didn't say candleja
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Anonymous2009-10-06 7:53
>>226
Some snakes grow legs due to freak mutations.
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Anonymous2009-10-06 7:56
>>221
Oh dear. >>222
So? It's been like this since Sumeria was founded.
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Anonymous2009-10-19 16:07
>>228
Those legs are however disgusting mutations, just like libfags ethics.
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Anonymous2009-10-21 9:31
>>230
Oh I see, your analogy does bear strong correlation.
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Anonymous2009-10-26 7:14
1.) I actually oppose both, except for the most violent criminals. Abortion isn't a good thing, it's a tragedy that shows the callousness of our culture and our failure to protect the most vulnerable parts of our society. No society has ever thrived by killing off the weak.
2.) Christianity is no better or worse than anything else. No religion should have power over the nonbeliever. I oppose ANY religion that would try to manipulate the political system to try to make "sin" a crime.
3.) Both are serious problems. Global warming is real, though I think the changes made should be balanced against what humans need in the here and now. I refuse to live like a caveman because someone decides electricity is a bad idea. Setting aside national parks and encouraging reasonable conservation is fine, just don't go nuts.
4.) I don't, I use windows.
5.) I don't blindly support big government. I'm more of a firm believer in using the right tool for the right job. There are a few cases in which government is better suited to handle a problem than business. The Interstate Highway system is a great example of this -- no private company had enough of an interest in building thousands of miles of roadway across the country, yet this IHS helped to produce great prosperity for the whole country. The other one is the Tennesee Valley Authority. There were small valleys in Tennessee that it was too costly to provide electricity for -- so the government built an electrical grid that could reach the small towns in those valleys. Other things like sewage treatment are too costly for a business to do, yet need to be done. Government IMO is best suited to building and preserving infrastructure. Social tampering usually causes more problems than it solves.
Partisan government is as Dispicable as "professional Politicians" it needs to be dealt with accordingly as do all religions that have fought over GOD. These stupid people have fought the "MY GOD IS BETTER THAN YOUR GOD WARS FOR OVER 2000 YEARS." Get a life you are fighting over the same god. and as for Professional Politicians get a life you greedy basturds and get out of my wallet
Marxist ideology as >>212 states is western negative.
He brings God into it, and although I am a devout atheist, I would believe that Christianity would be tackled as a western system for those reasons of unity and internal development.
Schooling is taught in a post-modern sense, it loses function and definitive answers, it becomes less important to search for the direct reasoning and multiple answers are right at once confusing the idea of learning.
Minority cultures are accentuated and majority cultures are stolen and made bland and ridiculed.
There are many ways in which they break down the system and these marxists openly express this until you tie it to being directly negative to westerners, when they will try to confuse it to some sort of more abstract definition of an enemy, and the utopian socialist environment.
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Anonymous2010-04-23 15:55
>>1 Why is it wrong to kill a violent criminal but okay to kill an innocent fetus?
The nasciturus is ablank slate and don't vote commie-jew.
Hence it's a non-person.
My Ayn Rand figurine fell in the toilet. That's OK, because floating about in a bowl of shit must surely be better than where she really is now, and that's BURNIN' IN HELL, folks. Demons are prodding her with hot forks as we speak. Every now and again, Jesus or Martin Luther King take pity on her and have a couple of beers sent down; something she wouldn't do for them because she hates hates hates hates altruists.
She deserves it as well, lame-ass adulterous child-hating misanthropic bitch-faced slag that she was. If I were a better man, I wouldn't say that, but I'm not, so what the hell. Looking back at her life, there was one sad miserable woman.