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STOP BEING ATHEISTS STUPID ASSHOLES

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 16:18 ID:p4S6lJno

In before "gb2 bible camp". I don't subscribe to any religion, it's just logical and you are all fucking idiots for not being able to understand something as simple as the ontological argument. I would go as far as to say you do not consider the BIG questions as you are not sapient!

This is the ontological argument...
Start with 2 of Descarte's famous premises and something obvious...


Thought exists.
I am inseparable from thought.
I exist.

Perceptions are a type of thought.

I cannot (completely) control the universe (I perceive).
The universe (I perceive) influences my perceptions.


Employ logic...


I do not (completely) control my perceptions.
The perceptions I cannot control are a type of thought.
Another existing thinking entity is controlling these perceptions.
The universe (I perceive) influences my perceptions.
An existing thinking entity is controlling the universe.

God = An existing thinking entity which controls the universe.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 22:30 ID:+6/dsQCl

I can play logic games too, try this one on for size:

1.  By definition of God, God is omnipotent.
2.  Therefore, God can create a rock so big he cannot lift it.

If God cannot lift a rock, he is not omnipotent, This being a contradiction, God's existence is impossible, from a logical standpoint.

You can therefore argue two things:

1.  Logic does not apply to God, in which case the statement swings both ways, so stop trying to use logic to prove his existence.
2.  God is not omnipotent, in which case he isn't God so much as an alien, and you still fail.

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