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STOP BEING ATHEISTS STUPID ASSHOLES

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 16:18 ID:p4S6lJno

In before "gb2 bible camp". I don't subscribe to any religion, it's just logical and you are all fucking idiots for not being able to understand something as simple as the ontological argument. I would go as far as to say you do not consider the BIG questions as you are not sapient!

This is the ontological argument...
Start with 2 of Descarte's famous premises and something obvious...


Thought exists.
I am inseparable from thought.
I exist.

Perceptions are a type of thought.

I cannot (completely) control the universe (I perceive).
The universe (I perceive) influences my perceptions.


Employ logic...


I do not (completely) control my perceptions.
The perceptions I cannot control are a type of thought.
Another existing thinking entity is controlling these perceptions.
The universe (I perceive) influences my perceptions.
An existing thinking entity is controlling the universe.

God = An existing thinking entity which controls the universe.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 19:27 ID:o8hvKZZe

'The perceptions I cannot control are a type of thought.'
Well, this bit seems reasonably logical to me.

'Another existing thinking entity is controlling these perceptions.'
However, this just makes me feel sorry for you. Why should another entity be controlling our perceptions? Surely they are (if uncontrolled) brought about by our subconscious mind?

You started off reasonably well but your disregard for psychiatry means your (regurgitated) argument is, in my opinion, ungrounded. I cannot blame Descartes for his lack of psychological knowledge, but i can blame you for not attempting to modify his argument.

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