Libertarians are NOT about rich corporations

Libertarians are mostly about small businesses. We want the government out of business affairs so that it's easier for small businesses to flourish.

Lefties always argue that "libertarians only care about the big corporations. without the government restricting them, they will monopolize and rule the world.". In fact it's the opposite. The big corporations love these restrictions because they are making it really hard for small businesses to even get off the ground, let alone compete with them.

Basically, libertarians want to make it easier for people to start their own businesses, and have less people relying on corporations for their salaries. More businesses means more competion, and a less crowded job market which makes it a lot harder companies to overwork and underpay their employees.

>>80
Educate your stupid ass before posting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_force_monopoly

>>81
Youre going by THAT article? HAHAHA ITS NEUTRALITY IS DESPUTED! ITS WORTHLESS!

>>80

Monopoly of force is part of the standard definition of a state within political science.

It basically means that no one can perform violence without authorisation of the state, or face retaliation from it.

Monopoly doesn't mean that it's impossible for anyone else to do it. If a large cooperation has a monopoly on selling rubber ducks, it doesn't mean that I won't be able to walk out on the street and sell a rubber duck to some guy.

There are different concepts of monopoly as well, political and economic ones as well.

It's not just force -- it's RETALITORY force. Meaning, if someone robs your house while you are away you go to the cops and have him arrested and tried in a court of laws.

The state acts in your self-defense; you don't hunt the guy down and ruthlessly slaughter him and rape his mother.

That's how it works in a free society. Well, for right now we can say semi-free society because no society on earth is 100% right now. America is a good example of this. Your rights are violated by the government, but not as much to mark it as a dictatorship etc etc.

Now if someone robs your house while you are there and that person is putting your life in danger, you have a right to act in your self-defense and end that person as a threat, because in that case, the government can't be there to act in your behalf. It would be irrational to assume the police can magically pop up every time your in trouble. If your life is in danger and you know there is not enough of a chance to get help right then and there, then it's perfectly moral to end the threat to your life.

I'm saying this because I know someone is going to bring up the whole "If only police can act for you, what if you’re getting attacked?"

>>82


*sigh*


Perhaps you could actually read it and find out what it says. Imagine if someone walked up and said "Nazism is evil" ... would you reply "You don't sound very neutral on the subject! Why should I listen to you!?"

>>84
Yep, you are right about that. But it doesn't mean that the state has give up on it's monopoly, it's just authorised you to use it in the confines of your own house, and it can choose to take that right away again if it wishes. In a democracy it is of course ideally the people that make these decisions, but it's the state that carry them out none the less.

The monopoly IS on force, period. If you wanna exact force, you do it with the blessing of the state, or you get fucked over by it. The state holds supreme power over force within it's sovereign territory, and it and it alone chooses how people may use it. This is probably the main reason why we even have the state, it makes for a really efficient society when you are absolutely sure who is in power, so the violent struggles to achieve the power is limited to complete nutcases who can't see the impossibility in fighting the state.

>>82
Shit, you must be one of the stupidest idiots ever to graze this forum. How does it feel to be so ignorant? Are you aware of it? Or does your ignorance bless you with the unknowledge of your constant embarresment? Its sad really...

>>83

>Monopoly doesn't mean that it's impossible for anyone else to do it. If a large cooperation has a monopoly on selling rubber ducks, it doesn't mean that I won't be able to walk out on the street and sell a rubber duck to some guy.

No it wouldn't, but as soon as you sold them, then the large corporation would cease having a monopoly on rubber ducks.

>>77

You can use other means to drive competition out of business, then just having a better or cheaper product. Alot of it is marketing, and corporations have the resources to better market their product then a smaller business, so the small business would be screwed even if its product was better. So no, not all corporations got to where they are through better products (or atleast they're not still where they are they because of better products).

Libertarianism is the same as communism, its to far on one side of the political spectrum or whatever the fuck its called, and it will only lead to the absolute power of one or a group of individuals. What's supposed to stop businesses from bribing their way out of all their 'fines'? Someone mentioned that the police would be payed on how much their fines took in, that meens that they'd give out false fines to make more money. You have to have a neutral party regulating things or else everything goes to shit, that's why you don't see many successfull completely left or right governments.

Libertarianism is the same as communism, its to far on one side of the political spectrum or whatever the fuck its called
Bang! In theory, theory and reality work the same. In reality...

>>90
gtfo you communist.

>Libertarianism is the same as communism, its to [sic] far on one side of the political spectrum or whatever the fuck its called

Not quite, Libertarianism and Communism share one defining characteristic: an overly optimistic belief in the goodness of humanity.  Communists believe that humans value equality and sharing more than anything, and Libertarians think that humans are greedy, but can't imagine that humans might cheat to get what they want.  They both end up failing in praxis.

Which means that humans are innately evil creatures which wish for their own prosperity over the prosperity of others.

>>93
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>>94
It's physically impossible for humans to be pre-programmed with abstract thoughts.