It is due to it being the application of political science. It does not permit failed policies to be continued fruitlessly year after year with idealistic fervour, it is next to impossible for anyone surrounded by fierce libertarian critics to continue clinging on to lies. It is a purely functional machine, lubricated with justice and fueled by free speech.
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Anonymous2007-12-07 10:43
>>719
100% correct apart from a few assumptions. It is not the idea that self is first, if that were the case it would sanction swings between tyranny and mob rule like the past 1000 years and this is not the case. Libertarianism is merely the realisation that there will always be people with power over each other and that it is preferable to have a libertarian army, libertarian police and libertarian courts who do nothing other than request funds for equipment, their services and an ordinary wage in order to defend liberty and represent the people.
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Anonymous2007-12-07 16:18
>>720
wow, your imagination is pretty fantastic. that or you're a fucking liar. either way, you're full of shit. when you have to resort to lies to make your point, you lose.
saying the lessez faire gov't of circa 1900 was socialist is like saying stalin was a warm, caring, loving person who could never do harm to another living thing. in otherwords, lies.
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Anonymous2007-12-07 19:06
>>722
Socialism is the idea that the state should have economic power beyond levying taxes for it's bureaucratic, law enforcement and military requirements.
Spoiler: People are capable of lying.
The banks involved and the OCC were working together, the banks can only be defined as an arm of the state and although America was not 100% socialist this particular arrangement indeed was.
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Anonymous2007-12-07 19:09
i think when the primary voting starts, we'll see just how fallible libertarianism is hmm....
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Anonymous2007-12-07 19:48
>>724
People who don't vote libertarian are fallible.
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Anonymous2007-12-11 13:33
Yes libertarianism is a dream, but with one exception, it has strong objective figures like the founding fathers, Ronald Reagan, Ron Paul Ludwig Von Mises and Milton Friedman who based their dreams on reality rather than their desires. Some say they have a sociopathic worldview, in truth they simply care more about people as a whole rather than merely pleasing the people around them.
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Anonymous2007-12-11 15:27
>>726
Don't forget Murray Rothbard. And what's Ronald Reagan doing there?!
good job guys. in just two posts you disproved this faggot OP's whole 700+ thread.
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Anonymous2007-12-17 7:55
what a long-ass thread
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Anonymous2007-12-17 12:41
Imagine pulling out 10 metre long thread from your ass.
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Anonymous2007-12-17 12:43
>>731
So you think the state should choose which dentist you go to? >>732
Assuming >>731 disproves the OP, how does >>730 disprove OP? >>730 supports a typically anarcho-capitalist policy whilst >>731 supports a typically socialist policy. Are you saying both are better than libertarianism?
There's nothing wrong with libertarianism. It's the libertarians who suck.
They're incapable of cooperation and refuse to do anything that requires more work than spamming internet boards.
Your typical libertarian (I'm talking about all kinds of anti-authoritarians here which includes the various forms of anarchism) is first and foremost an introvert.
The different views on economy result from their personal opinions on what's the best way to be left alone.
Far left wants to be mothered by the government and far right wants a solitary working environment.
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Anonymous2007-12-21 19:35
>>745
You and I both know you are describing yourself.
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Anonymous2007-12-23 6:57
Libertarianism is getting kind of popular amongst emos and rebels. I think the libfags are getting jealous.
btw, how the fuck is this thread still going? libertarians are just a bunch of anarchist dumbfucks.
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Anonymous2007-12-24 1:14
>>748
They are not anarchist as they recognise the fact that there will always be a power structure of some sort and that it is preferable to have a minimal representative form of government than a power vacuum which will be filled by armed gangs in less than 20 seconds. Anarchists should be on their knees behind me ready to suck my asshole apon command.
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Anonymous2007-12-28 17:15
No other political philosophy cares more about the economy than libertarianism. If like me your life revolves around making ends meet and getting all the things you and your family wants or obtaining the largest net worth possible to prove you are superior and live in opulent splendour, then libertarianism is for you. I think that covers about 99% of the population.
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Anonymous2007-12-29 4:53
If you're a libertarian, just give up on this site. You won't change any minds here. This is libfag central.
Like General Patton said, "If everyone is thinking a like, then somebody isn't thinking."
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Anonymous2007-12-29 22:30
>>751
"If everyone is thinking a like, then somebody isn't thinking."
Which is why libertarians are the only political philosophy that believes no one should force their way of thinking on others, not to mention their almost fanatical fervour in protecting free speech.
It might not seem like it but they can do things under the radar. I bet everyone has broken at least 20 laws they are unaware of and the government can snap and draw you in whenever they feel like it by uncoverring a slip you made a year ago. I don't like the idea that the government can fuck with you. Is libertarianism the answer I don't know but they're right about that and they the only ones who say anything.
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Anonymous2007-12-30 19:13
>>751 >>752
it is "alike" not "a like" fucking morons.
also, if you're a libertarian, just give up period.
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Anonymous2007-12-31 1:52
>>756
YOU START SENTENCES WITH A CAPITAL LETTER YOU FUCKING MORON YOU COMPLETE RETARDED WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT YOU TOTAL FUCKING COCK SUCKING MOTHERFUCKER, YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING RETARD FUCKING KILL YOURSELF NOW YOU ENORMOUS TWAT
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Anonymous2007-12-31 15:39
>>757
wow, did you come up with that on your own? it's almost creative. almost.
>>757
Jeepers, Mister! That sure is rude! I don't think your local Libertarian group organizer would approve of your behavior if I were to tell him about it!
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Anonymous2008-01-01 5:22
>>758 >>759
Spoiler: I'm not really angry, I'm mocking faggots like you who go anal over 1 typo.