Liberals and Libertarians.

There was one thread named "libertarians are a joke" with some liberals talking as though all libertarians are capitalists and libertarians pointing out that this was wrong.

Then there was another thread named "what does socialism mean" with some libertarians talking as though all liberals are communists and some liberals pointing out that this was wrong.

We should be beginning to see a pattern here.

Are we all in agreement that Marx's idea of communism and capitalism are all naive bullshit? I'm not just talking about Marx either, I'm talking about all sorts of political philosophers who knew very little about the field they discussed and viewed the world through a very narrow lense. Marx discussed socio-economics yet he did not major in mathematics which is fundamental to any subject dealing with economics. In his writings he did not prove scientifically that his theories were viable. He was a total failure. No one can take him seriously as a scientist, only as a case study in psychology investigating how people get drawn into fallacies.

So Libertarians believe communism is utter BS and claim not to be capitalists but free marketeers. Whilst liberals believe capitalism is utter BS and claim not to be communists but social democrats....

Perhaps it is time for libertarians to state clearly that capitalism is BS and for liberals to state clearly that communism is BS.

Then we can all agree that Marx and other idealists who followed suite, including national socialists, capitalists and fascists, were bullshitters and we need to do things scientifically.

As a libertarian myself I hereby clearly state that capitalism is BS.

>>3
You lack the basic understanding of dialectics. If you leave out arguments it can only be assumed they are too weak to withstand debate. But yes, my point is that perhaps I am being paranoid about socialists being just a ruse by communists who believe it is a stepping stone to their totalitarianism inducing religion.

>>5
Capitalism was not taken seriously before Marx, given it's rightful place as a hypothetical oddity. Marx wrongly declared that capitalism was the only economic force in play, when in fact corruption between factory owners and politicians was the cause of most unfair distribution in his day and age which is defined as fascism.

Libertarians endorse free market economics, not free market capitalism. If any do then they are just another sect of marx worshippers like the communists and not libertarians.