Liberals and Libertarians.

There was one thread named "libertarians are a joke" with some liberals talking as though all libertarians are capitalists and libertarians pointing out that this was wrong.

Then there was another thread named "what does socialism mean" with some libertarians talking as though all liberals are communists and some liberals pointing out that this was wrong.

We should be beginning to see a pattern here.

Are we all in agreement that Marx's idea of communism and capitalism are all naive bullshit? I'm not just talking about Marx either, I'm talking about all sorts of political philosophers who knew very little about the field they discussed and viewed the world through a very narrow lense. Marx discussed socio-economics yet he did not major in mathematics which is fundamental to any subject dealing with economics. In his writings he did not prove scientifically that his theories were viable. He was a total failure. No one can take him seriously as a scientist, only as a case study in psychology investigating how people get drawn into fallacies.

So Libertarians believe communism is utter BS and claim not to be capitalists but free marketeers. Whilst liberals believe capitalism is utter BS and claim not to be communists but social democrats....

Perhaps it is time for libertarians to state clearly that capitalism is BS and for liberals to state clearly that communism is BS.

Then we can all agree that Marx and other idealists who followed suite, including national socialists, capitalists and fascists, were bullshitters and we need to do things scientifically.

As a libertarian myself I hereby clearly state that capitalism is BS.

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>Because as history tells us, a situation like this leads to a capitalist society which leads to, if not oppression in the traditional sense, a sort of oppression in an economical and social sense for a lot of people.

History doesn't show that, you made it up.
You complain about how people argue but yet you're doing it wrong yourself.
Interpreting history is a fine art exclusively for historians.
I'm pretty sure that you confuse laissez fair with anarcho-capitalism.
It means no import quotas, no toll etc. and NOT that you have to give up all your rights.
Companies want to protect themselves from unfair practices as much as you do.
Ever heard of copyright law?
The average entrepreneur isn't an evil mastermind with the goal of world domination.

^__^/

GAY