but if either of the two are democracies, thus the governments are elected by and represent the will of the people, aren't your points sort of moot? if the population decides to give up part of their freedoms to the state, how is this not the people using their freedom to the greatest extent.
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"If an evil coorporation starts throwing orphans out into the snow so they can knock it down to build a polluting mercury processing plant, then under libertarianism they are given a fair trial, found guilty and go to prison." this is true for most other systems as well, what's your point?
"If anyone attempts to corrupt the justice system most likely they will be killed by one of the many libertarians who vow to start a war if anyone comes to take their guns."
what does curropting the justice system have to do with libertarians starting wars against people who want to take their guns?
"under libertarianism, the degree of state control is minimized to allow freedom, whereas in socialism the degree of state control is maximized to reach an ideal that is impossible to objectively size up as good or bad."
but is it possible to say whether a completely minimized state is objectively a good or bad thing?
"It's different because it is based on free speech and political freedom. This means accepting criticism, people's concerned and letting people try out different ideas as long as they don't force it on others."
Socialism is based on Free speech and political freedom too.