>>219
"Except when a business does something unethical, its just business, when a government employee does something unethical, we can throw them out for committing the CRIME of fucking around in a public office."
Conjecture. I could say the exact opposite and it would make as little sense. We are discussing which is more corrupt. People who wish to commit corruption have a much easier time intriguing within their own familiar organisation than attempting to influence another organisation without being ratted out.
Succesful western countries already have core libertarian principles in their constitutions, freedom of speech, some rights to own property etc.. Before these rights were permitted the stereotypical fat cats who exploit workers AND criminals in the government opposed such rights by saying pretty much the same shit you are saying now. All I'm seeing here is another extremist zealot convinced that everyone else is inferior for not being part of some statist ideology.
Effect: Some people are irresponsible.
Cause: They never had the responsibility in the first place so they never learned to be responsible.