Libertarianism is a joke.

It's the 21st century version of laissez-faire. Instead of the government raping our asses, it's the corporations. I'd rather have some form of regulation in capitalism than none. Notice how the areas that resembles libertarianism politics the most are the areas that are leeching federal money and relies heavily on manufacturing jobs. Way to take care of your population.

What's worse than trendy liberal fags in real life? Trendy libertarian cunts on teh internets. Look at me, I am a libertarian because everybody else on teh internet is doing it and it's the only third option. I get wet whenever someone mentions personal responsibility.

Ayn Rand makes me happy in teh pants

Libertarianism is a waste of time and brainpower. If I wanted a monopoly or an ogligarchy like the ones we had during the Industrialization Era, I'd move to a third-world country. The American Nazi Party has more street credz than Libertarians.

>>1 >>2 & >>4  
Same idiot.

The difference between a corporations is that corporations can't attack consumers or unions(YES, FREE MARKETS HAVE UNIONS) so they can't rape us too much, or a boycott/strike happen.

Rofl@same person posting to establish a sense a worth

"The difference between a corporations is that corporations can't attack consumers or unions(YES, FREE MARKETS HAVE UNIONS) so they can't rape us too much, or a boycott/strike happen."

You wish that's how it would turn out, don't you? What you said is no different than communists saying communism would make everyone equal even though some people in the government will abuse their power. Same shit with libertarians and corporations.
Ever heard of vertical integration?

How about people posting examples of libertarian first-world countries, eh?

The difference between a corporations is that corporations can't attack consumers or unions(YES, FREE MARKETS HAVE UNIONS) so they can't rape us too much, or a boycott/strike happen)
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"Same idiot."

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Also, why bash libertarianism specifically? Why wasn't the title "Capitalism is a joke"? Libertarianism is just conservatism without the bullshit.

Because capitalism itself isn't a joke. It's an economic theory that works.

Unfettered capitalism is another story. Some people really do seem to think that more is always better.

"Also, why bash libertarianism specifically? Why wasn't the title "Capitalism is a joke"? Libertarianism is just conservatism without the bullshit."

Because libertarianism is an ideology and not just an economic theory, you moron. You might as well call everyone who is not a libertarian a terrorist-loving, freedom-hating, unamerican. Ironically, your point on bullshit-less conservatism is contradicted by your bullshit on trying to connect the two as one. You fail.

>>15

Cool your jets, faggot. He named this thread "Libertarianism is a joke" and his post was him bitching about capitalism. This makes no sense, American conservatism supports capitalism as well, so to pick on libertarianism specifically is illogical. I never said I supported capitalism specifically, but I implied it is better out of it and conservatism. And if you can't connect and discern between libertarianism and conservatism in social/economic views.. then fuck off. It's not hard.

Capitalism has never existed in a nation state. The closest any system comes to capitalism are organisations within nation states such as that used by organised crime ranging from pirates to the russian mafia. Feudal lords were communist, the government controlled everything and forced all their serfs into collective farms which they were stuck in for life. The factory owners in Marx's day were fascist or national scoialist, a free market on the surface, but heavy corruption played out behind the scenes between people of economic and political power. Today's modern succesful economies are crosses between social democrat and free market, with varying levels of democratically authorised government intervention in an otherwise free market. Of these nations those closer to a pure free market have much lower levels of crime and poverty.

>>16
He was not bitching about capitalism, he was bitching about an unregulated exploitive market place.

American conservatism supports capitalism as well, so to pick on libertarianism specifically is illogical.
True, but he is referring to the manner in which the market is maintained (ie, not at all), not capitalism specifically.

"Of these nations those closer to a pure free market have much lower levels of crime and poverty."

Where are these places that you speak of?

Cool your jets, faggot. He named this thread "Libertarianism is a joke" and his post was him bitching about capitalism. This makes no sense, American conservatism supports capitalism as well, so to pick on libertarianism specifically is illogical. I never said I supported capitalism specifically, but I implied it is better out of it and conservatism. And if you can't connect and discern between libertarianism and conservatism in social/economic views.. then fuck off. It's not hard.

I don't know why you even bring up conservatism. I pick on libertarianism because it's the most annoying political trend on teh internets. The only thing librarians have in common with conservatives are their economic views. If unregulated capitilism were truly the shit, then we would see more first-world nations under this system that no one around here can seem to name. "Not giving libertarinism a chance" is not an excuse. You fail again.

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>>17
Capitalism has never existed in a nation state.
Hmm, why does that sound familiar? Ah, yes, the typical far-left excuse: "Marxism has never existed in a nation state."

I hope the glaring parallel here isn't beyond you, Herr Ideologue.

The word Capitalism is totally retarded.
How about you guys start using words that actually have meaning such as Laissez-faire?

The word Computer is totally retarded.
How about you guys start using words that actually have meaning such as Universal Turing Machine?

Good one.

The word Faggot is totally retarded.
How about you guys start using words that actually have meaning such as Bundle of Sticks.

>>21
The difference is I don't support capitalism, whilst the far left support marxism or something like it. Also stop thinking in terms of left-right up down in your mouth, up the ass, it's retarded and doesn't go anywhere. Just use science to prove  hypothesis logically.

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>>24
same person, gb2 www.proxymyass.com

>>23
The word Universal Turing Machine is totally retarded.
How about you guys start using words that actually have meaning such as Computer?*
fix'd

>>26

if you go far enough right the far right will support capitalism, if you go far enough left, the far left will support communism.

you can't set up the same large-scale social experiment again and again and again, so it's hard to use science to prove an ideology. we have to rely on the empiricla knowledge from the situations we have seen, and from what we know about human beings in general from the studies of psychology.

>>28
Fold the left-right system in half and it will be revealed that the capitalists and communists are just marxists. Their obsession with peculiar and offensive sexual practices, love of tyranny, use of machiavellian extremist tactics to fool the poor into supporting them, their hatred of logic and relentless use of bigotry correlate perfectly into one another. They are 2 cheeks of the same ass.

>>27 wouldn't understand satire if it gang-raped him repeatedly in a back alley.

The rest of the world calls it "capitalism". Stop masturbating, get off the drugs, and get used to it.

>>29
capitalists and communists are just marxists. Their obsession with peculiar and offensive sexual practices...love of tyranny...hatred of logic and relentless use of bigotry correlate perfectly into one another....

er, what?
Are you trying to describe some kind of politcal vampire or something?
You're making a textbook strawman argument.
GTFO of /newpo/

>>12
YOU ARE A FAILURE

Libertarianism isn't about the economy, it's about personal freedom. The Libertarian Party happens to be very conservative economically, but Libertarianism in general is not. I am a Left Libertarian and I think laissez faire is a load of horse shit.

I am a Left Libertarian and I think laissez faire is a load of horse shit.
That makes you Liberal.

This should help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Worlds-Smallest-Political-Quiz.PNG

>>33
That is not what the term left refers to...

>>34
Probably because left/right are rather ill-defined terms. I think the graph made a mistake by mentioning them, but I digress.

Liberal and Libertarian both agree on personal freedom. Where they differ is economic freedom.

>>33

Sort of, not really though. I am more extreme than most Liberals, I'm for the legalization of prostitution and all drugs, small government etc., and am against other traditionally liberal things like gun control and affirmative action. If I say I am very liberal people think I am a hippy and/or a Communist, which I am not. I've gotten many different results on political quizzes, Liberal, Libertarian, Socialist, it depends mostly on the quiz. But the best, most accurate political quiz in my opinion is the Political Compass (http://politicalcompass.org./analysis2), on which I am a Left Libertarian, approximately the Dalai Lama. The problem is political terms are so muddled, Liberal can mean Left, Libertarian can mean Right, extreme Liberalism can mean laissez faire, there are so many differing opinions on what the meaning of each of the terms mean. I just picture like the political compass does, Libertarianism is only about personal freedom, Left-Right scale is only about economics, and the parties all fall within that plane.

>>36
The Dalai Lama is a marxist... http://hhdl.dharmakara.net/hhdlquotes1.html

"Of all the modern economic theories, the economic system of Marxism is founded on moral principles, while capitalism is concerned only with gain and profitability. Marxism is concerned with the distribution of wealth on an equal basis and the equitable utilization of the means of production. It is also concerned with the fate of the working classes—that is the majority—as well as with the fate of those who are underprivileged and in need, and Marxism cares about the victims of minority-imposed exploitation. For those reasons the system appeals to me, and it seems fair. . . I think of myself as half-Marxist, half-Buddhist."

Which is ironic considering that Mao kicked his ass.

>>37
That Dalai Lama's country also has a marxist dick firmly inside it's asshole.

>>37
Dolly Llama will kiss anyones ass if they donate money to his terrorist war to overthrow the oppressive Chinese regime and reinstate the oppressive Dolly Llama.