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Whoaw. I may not have any evidence that fewer guns does work (since that seems unattainable by your standards), but you don't have any evidence that it doesn't. Back to status quo. Am I right?
The same goes for increased murder rate with increased convenience. I say it is, you say it isn't. I boldly claim that the statistics support my view and you vocally disagree. At least I try to use facts. You have nothing. But we can shout at each other if you want to.
I have heard of combating underlying causes, I haven't heard of it working. Is there perhaps statistics to suggest that it is? I am by no means close-minded, lay it on me.
As for criminals having access to guns whether they are illegal or not I say "no". That's not true. In countries with strict gun laws criminals don't mainly use guns. They use knives and blunt objects. Some guns find their way onto the black market of course, with smuggling and whatnot, but not enough to satisfy the demand.
And here we go again with the fascism. Throw in some founding fathers, a dash of freedom and maybe.. God? Is that the star spangled-banner I hear? I can't relate, I'm sorry.