>>14
Well, like Diogenes i am looking for humans with my torch, but all i see in the light is gaping assholes spewing diarrhea. The association is not voluntary but thrust upon me by the flabbergasting level of retardity of some people, yet by some deep rooted perversion i am titillated into debating with said excremental existences. Perhaps it is the confirmation of my own grandeur i am seeking, yet this explanation seems to arrogant to suit humble little me.
>>11
Your definition of socialism render the term meaningless unless its use is to demonize. No socialist would agree to your definition, and no economist either by the way. State control over parts of the economy has always been and will as long as there is a state. As long as a state exist people will earn wages working for the state (like politicians, police and judges) and therefore the state controls at least that part of the economy. I believe Hong Kong also had a state (they were part of the British commonwealth) so in your view they were also socialist, sorry.
>>12
Who are you arguing with?
>>13
Please tell me more of this origin of fascism. If i remember correctly were Henry Ford (not really a socialist worker imo) one of Hitlers inspirations both as a antisemite and as industrialist. While Ford and Hitler were both proponents of welfare capitalism (which is like compassionate conservatism) they were also staunch union haters. Unions and socialist workers movements are not usually seen as antagonists, but maybe history is wrong and you are right?