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That is not a strawman. You are claiming a universal fact, to disprove it all I need is a single exception. That's basic logic. As far as I'm concerned you're the one trolling.
You seem convinced that I am a "liberal", let me do some guessing of my own. Judging from your posts I would say that you are a religious moralist, possibly muslim but probably some sort of christian. You aren't as much a scholar as you are a traditionalist, relying chiefly on what you were taught as you grew up. With atheism and nihilism on the rise worldwide you know that you are part of a dying breed and feel frustrated that you can't do anything to help your cause. You scour the internets for messageboards on which to post your desperate pleas for the attention of the masses. You tell yourself that this is to convert people, to defend what’s right, but in fact it's little more than a way of staying sane – you need to prove to yourself that you are not wrong. You know that a thread dealing openly with religion would immediately draw heavy flak, so you venture into a realm you aren't too familiar with - that of logic and reason, hoping to engage the infidels in their own back yard. With thinly veiled religious fervor you go to battle, imagining yourself being the last bastion of everything right and decent in a giant cultural war against hordes of godless marxists, liberals and mexicans. But deep down you know that you are going to lose, that you will be overwhelmed by sheer numbers and that your kind is doomed to obscurity and extinction. You take solace in the knowledge that your heroic last stand will appease the higher powers and that after your death you will have life eternal in the next world (you won't).
As for the discussion itself, it is obvious that you would sooner resort to pejorative language and personal attacks than listen to reason. Should I choose to withdraw in the face of such childishness you would no doubt take the opportunity to declare victory. Thus, my only option is to stoop to your level and resort to those same tactics. And that, you should know, is not at all below me.