>>38 >>39
Some weren't. It really depends on how intelligent they are. The deciding factor is whether they are willing to prepare for the worst and whether they are willing to adapt and neutralise threats when they first appear.
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Anonymous2007-03-18 10:37 ID:I1SdnhiC
>>41
There were enough zealots for me being thankful that i am European and that those fanatics are a sea away. I think the US would have gained if all those idiots had been exterminated at the start, and that the US had been a indian nation. Prolly would have helped stem cell research at least.
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Anonymous2007-03-19 2:07 ID:yCO4Zu5b
>>42
In that event there wouldn't have been a US at all, just a few million Stone Age cannibal nomads scattered across a continent scratching their asses. And you'd be discussing this subject in German, if at all.
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Anonymous2007-03-19 3:41 ID:/5E4tYC8
Not Russian?
Hah, who are you kidding?
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Anonymous2007-03-19 13:40 ID:irGvyc+z
>>43
I am pretty sure the natives could be able to progress on their own. I mean, they had a more developed democracy than the settlers, yet the settlers were able to hold elections some 300 years late... oh wait i see now you are right, people never change and the zealots remain, my bad. I should just count my blessings that we are not all burned for withcery and jewry, amirite?
>>46
Maybe he's talking about Bizarro World. I DO know that these "more developed" natives never had the wheel, never had a written language, and never had metal tools. Except for a tiny handful they never even had agriculture.
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Anonymous2007-03-20 9:54 ID:OYBXFXS8
>>47
Reading lessons maybe? More developed democracy is what i said. And funnily enough, people who had a choice preferred to live with the indians. The indians never starved. The settlers had lots of famines. But whatever, its funny that you defend militaristic religious zealots as being the fucking epitome of civilization, you must be muslim, amirite?
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yo mama2007-03-20 12:27 ID:/pgWSiXU
European people were barbarians,
and theyh smelled like cheese and shit combined
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Anonymous2007-03-20 13:14 ID:nsfMckl7
>>49
Does your ass smell like cheese? Can I sniff it?
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Anonymous2007-03-20 14:28 ID:8vOJ3C65
"indians never starved" lol. liberals say the damndest things.
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Anonymous2007-03-20 14:49 ID:OYBXFXS8
>>51
Of course i meant that they never starved when there was a famine amongst the settlers. They were hunter gatherers you see and those seldom starve since their numbers are way below carrying capacity. But maybe im using to many long words for you so, no they NEVER EVER starved, i promise!
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Anonymous2007-03-20 15:07 ID:8vOJ3C65
if you live close to nature you never over populate and starve? lol
Who cares? They're the Iraqis, if they had entered the age of reason, we wouldn't have had to kill Saddam. If it weren't for the democrats making political assassinations illegal, we wouldn't have had to go in there. Though personally, if I was the executive leader at the time, I would've had Saddam assassinated, bombed each place where I thought they had WMDs, and then let the sectarian violence ensue. They're not going to learn reason on a wide scale during this generation, so let the violence happen, natural selection happens, and the generations go by faster, hopefully their children's children will learn reason if their entire population isn't killed.
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Anonymous2007-03-21 21:17 ID:YPtRTJsD
>>60
Actually they were in the age of reason until the Ayetollah came to power. There was a good economy but the gap between rich an poor was great so the Ayatollah appealed to poor and told them to go back to a secular lifestyle and they did since they had nothing to lose, thats when radical islam came about, it's just like communism.
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Anonymous2007-03-21 22:15 ID:P/wEog6U
>>60
Clinton actually tried to assassinate Saddam several times and bombed every suspected WMD place. Eg operation Destert Fox. The people tried to overthrow Saddam once directly after Desert Storm and then again around 98 i think, and had they succeded the shit storm would have already blown over. But the US supported Saddam (eg by letting his airforce bomb the fuck out of the insurgents), because they thought they could control the shitution with an occupation later on. The US should try to read moar history, it would prolly save american lives.
>>61
You are aware that Iran and Iraq are not only two completely different countries but also cultures and ethnicities? But they had democracy and a budding enlightenment up 1954 when it was crushed with the CIA Operation Ajax which installed the Shah and his brutal dictatorship. It was this dictatorship that made the persians disillusioned with democracy and the west and it was this dictatorship that opened the door for the revolution of the Ayatollahs.
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Anonymous2007-03-22 3:53 ID:XzPuuu4K
I am aware of the US's history with Iraq, Clinton was willing to go outside the provisions of the law, and was unsuccessful, he was also a fucking idiot. Had Bush been willing to make assassination attempts, it probably would have gone better.
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Anonymous2007-03-22 10:02 ID:j/2snIxH
>>63
Jesus, todays fuckup is due to Bushes seniors original fuckup, you fuckup! He had a chance to invade Baghdad which he didnt take, since he realized the current scenario, he had a chance to let the people overthrow Saddam which he didnt allow because he realized that a free iraq is not a friendly iraq. This unstable chinese finger trap was created when he didnt let Saddam annex Quwait in the first place, meaning from his psychopathic geopolitical view, Saddam was a far better ally than enemy, and Quwait was originally iraqi in the first place, and Quwait was a fucking unfree dictatorship too. But Bush senior wanted his war and now almost twenty years later the american public is still paying for that major SNAFU. Bush senior didnt do any assassination attempts (that were official at least) since Saddam was his preferred choice. He is a fucking idiot though, and he has failed at everything except spawning a brood of failures. Happy times!
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Anonymous2007-03-22 13:27 ID:XzPuuu4K
I never said I like Bush senior or actually the manner in which any recent president has handled the situation. If I had reason to believe that Saddam was an eminent threat to the security of my nation, which intelligence led us to believe at the time, I would've simply had him assassinated regardless of the policies of the democrats.
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Anonymous2007-03-22 19:12 ID:MN2AFTZ3
So Clinton is the hero? lol
You boys have been at bat three times since Kennedy and struck out every time. Its a shame cuz up till then you were doing so well. Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy made their mark on the US and the world. All your offering us now is a newcomer and a retread. Quit trying to surrender and just do it.