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Obama is not a Kennedy

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-01 20:46 ID:kRrISuTE

He would never say anything like

"Finally, I want to say a few words to the captive people of Cuba, to whom this speech is being directly carried by special radio facilities. I speak to you as a friend, as one who knows of your deep attachment to your fatherland, as one who shares your aspirations for liberty and justice for all. And I have watched and the American people have watched with deep sorrow how your nationalist revolution was betrayed- and how your fatherland fell under foreign domination. Now your leaders are no longer Cuban leaders inspired by Cuban ideals. They are puppets and agents of an international conspiracy which has turned Cuba against your friends and neighbors in the Americas-and turned it into the first Latin American country to become a target for nuclear war-the first Latin American country to have these weapons on its soil."

because he is an enormous pussy.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-02 7:02 ID:Ev2prLq3

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Name: Anonymous 2007-03-02 7:06 ID:Ev2prLq3

oops..

Yeah, I just can't imagine a modern democrat stand up for America and the people of the world who don't buy all this anti-american paranoid hate. What the democrats don't realise is it would take one speech on the war on terror which takes OUR side, the side of justice and liberty, instead of the delusion that we are imperialists just because we trade with poor countries.

The real solution to this problem would probably be just to stop trading with despots from all over the world, not just North Korea. But I doubt this is going to happen becuase neither we or they want to stop trade.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-07 20:44 ID:UdeoVzHq

>>3
Are you fucking bonkers? The rest of the world IS that anti American paranoid hate!  When you go around invading nations with impunity and have no justified reason for invading in the first place, the rest of the world is wary of you.

What the hell makes you think the world loves you? Go visit a foreign country and ask them how they feel about the US. Go, do it.

Go check the polls about who the international community thinks is dangerous to world peace right now, you'll see America up there with terrorists.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-07 22:31 ID:5xr6jNK1

>>4
So you are saying everyone in the world hates america? Not just the destitute poor who have never been beyond the next village who have been instructed by the tyrants keeping them in the dirt that all their problems are due to America?

Also you are backing up my point. A democrat would never stand up for America. It's your kind that they are trying to get to vote for them.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-08 2:30 ID:/NXbGCLr

>>5


i'm quite sure democrats stand up for america as much as republicans, they just have different ideas of what america should do and thus different ways to stand up.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-08 14:05 ID:ZjSrs1n4

>>6
But it's bullshit that the US are imperialists and that foreign tyrants are somehow heros. So why don't you hear democrats standing up for america like Kennedy did anymore?

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-08 14:10 ID:ZjSrs1n4

>>6
Did you read what Kennedy said? Maybe some time ago, like during vietnam, it was refreshing to hear someone criticise the US's actions, but now it's refreshing to hear someone stand up for the US even if it was by someone 45 years ago.

"Now your leaders are no longer Cuban leaders inspired by Cuban ideals. They are puppets and agents of an international conspiracy which has turned Cuba against your friends and neighbors in the Americas-and turned it into the first Latin American country to become a target for nuclear war-the first Latin American country to have these weapons on its soil."

Kennedy was right and he was more concerned about his principles than getting votes from ranting paranoid idiots. Nowadays a democrat like Kennedy would get shouted at and lose popularity for saying something like this even more so than in the late 50s or early 60s and no democrat has the guts to do so.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-08 19:48 ID:z7x77K9a

>>8

Really hard to argue with that.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-08 19:49 ID:z7x77K9a

>>9
Whoops, however, let me say that I think the same thing about the other end of the spectrum.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-10 15:04 ID:/AiJLJ7q

I am still waiting for an American President to go to a Middle East conference and say SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID SAND NIGGERS

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-10 16:53 ID:ZkiBFhAt

>>11
That's not what I had in mind.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-10 23:21 ID:MEy7NnsI

America deserves more criticism.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-10 23:26 ID:MEy7NnsI

>>7
The US is imperialistic.  And you can ask well-off, educated people in Europe and Asia to place that beside your "only the poor masses hate America gibe.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-11 14:31 ID:aBoDTbxR

>>14
Oh wow haha! Let me try!

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Eh, I guess it didn't work, it seems no matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it true. I guess you should have learned this when I was 5.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-11 16:32 ID:AdAojJoP

>>14
The U.S. is imperialistic, but Europe has no chance of being invaded, so why should they care? Do they really feel that close to ragheads?

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-12 11:36 ID:IeJZU6lp

>>1
>>3
>>5
>>7

Then why don't you stand up for America, internet tough guy? Go to the nearest recruiting station and help support your so-called ideals in Iraq. PROTIP: It's a lot different than putting a "support our troops" magnet on the SUV your parents bought you.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-12 18:52 ID:eSIntaGx

>>16
PROTIP:  look at the numbers of Moslems in Spain, France, Germany, and the UK.  Look at their birth rates and compare them to the birth rates of the native population.

Europe is being invaded now, and will be a caliphate under Taliban-style sharia law by 2030.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-12 19:12 ID:1sCdG0Uc

>>17
Why do I have to join the army in order to cease being persecuted? Surely it is a human right not to be persecuted just for being american?

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-13 23:21 ID:Z4IpX7NW

>>19
Because that's his whole argument.  If you don't join the Army, he will say "SHUT THE FUCK UP CHICKENHAWK LOL WHY DONT U JOIN TEH ARMY FAGORT."  And if you say "I'm in the Army now and I'm posting from Iraq," he will say "SHUT THE FUCK UP BRAINWASHED BABYKILLER LOL WHY DON'T YOU SHOOT YOURSELF WAR CRIMINAL."

He has nothing else.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-14 1:15 ID:T65SJzwT

>>20
That's because his argument has no logic, which I felt the need to point out.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-14 2:12 ID:XhirA4+s

     http://www.voltairenet.org/article143050.html

This one has some juicy bits on Kennedy, as well as Bush assassination attempt that I didn't know about..

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-14 23:27 ID:C9WnTX4K

>>21

What part about the argument "put up or shut up" do you not understand.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-15 8:08 ID:kTCRJROx

>>23
Why you neglected to mention the 3rd option.

1: Put up.
2: Shut up.
3: Fight for liberty so everyone can live in peace loving democracies.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-16 17:37 ID:Hr2zl2Os

>>24

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Name: Anonymous 2007-03-16 18:08 ID:wNqPH/V5

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Name: Anonymous 2007-03-16 22:29 ID:Hr2zl2Os

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Name: Anonymous 2007-03-16 22:55 ID:4Lnvk6LE

Obama isn't a Kennedy, he's a nigger and by gods thats a whole different ball game

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 15:12 ID:2EUy9VCC

Shut the fuck up you racist piece of shit

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 17:40 ID:tbt/ZTXb

Obama bin Laden?

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 22:12 ID:GyaCPwPG

>>30
How original

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 22:15 ID:tbt/ZTXb

>>31
Kopipe?  In my 4chan?  THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 9:13 ID:xiVpe0Ul

I'm wonderring. How many liberals here agree with that exerpt from Kennedy's speach? Do you agree or do you think there is some conspiracy theory and Castro is actually a benevolent dictator.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 10:32 ID:k0Nx1xdv

>>33
I believe hes benevolent. E.g. he has fewer political prisoners than the US...

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 12:27 ID:J/ulJTvN

>>1

Haha, funny shit. When I read "the captive people of Cuba" I thought of Guantanamo. So yeah, I think he could say something similar.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 12:43 ID:xiVpe0Ul

>>34
You'd be suprised.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 14:51 ID:7HvWTsF6

>>35
They locked up the cubans in Guantanamo? Did they make them wear panties on their heads?

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 15:42 ID:lUhpPlLh

>>34
Name five political prisoners in the US.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 16:28 ID:k0Nx1xdv

Almost all of the prisoners in guantanamo are political prisoners, ie that they are not there for something they did but for something they believed or how they look. The prison does not have to be IN the united states to be a US prison, does it now? Also, there has been children incarcerated in guantanamo, i have never heard of castro incarcerating children... 

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 2:05 ID:epD8YiDv

>>39
o rly?  You can prove this, yes?

Funny, I thought they were Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists captured in Afghanistan--captured with guns in their hands, shooting at American troops.

But you CAN name five, right?  You can name these "children," right?

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