Different scale? I'm not sure on how you sort your political views, but I view it as a compass, not a scale. Libertarianism is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Top of the compass, right in the center.
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Anonymous2007-03-03 3:26 ID:HIagLJ6k
>>10
um.. Are you sure we want these guys to be the face of the libertarian paty?
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Pretty simple huh? Once you get rid of ""Muslims, Jews and Niggers" you'll get rid of about 75-80% of all the problems in western society. (I'm being srios too)
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Anonymous2007-03-03 9:26 ID:TH6scnHi
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I don't think it's as high as 75%-80% and you will be creating the problem of stamping on muslim jew and black human rights. Your reasonning is the same as shooting someone and going "I did it because he was more likely to commit crime than a woman and now that he's dead it doesn't matter what happenned, amirite?".
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Anonymous2007-03-03 21:25 ID:bMsgJ3a/
>Libertarianism is socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
As in, "We don't care about morality, the safety of the people, hell we don't care about shit as long as the rich get to keep all their money."
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Anonymous2007-03-03 21:50 ID:Fefttc1d
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Your missing the point, getting rid of religion and poverty will get rid of 75-80% of problems, we can't get rid of one them, but the other can be. >>23
and is there a problem with that?
If you are satisfied with that interpretation, feel free to.. but don't think anyone else is going to sympathize with someone who advocates a government interfering with everything in your life
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Anonymous2007-03-03 22:48 ID:bLOH51Hh
Socially liberal, somewhat of a moderate fiscally I guess.
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Anonymous2007-03-03 23:58 ID:sP0H3PZF
I don't really take an opinion on taxes, maybe becauase I don't pay them ;), not for income anyways.
I believe in stiff industry regulation, no taxes on business(i.e. no sales tax), and just yearly income taxes on individuals. I'm a progressive, I believe in fast, aggressive and most importantly couragous change for the better.
In terms of education, I'm against any formal curriculum. I promote home-schooling and parents actually caring about their kids.
I also believe in not pissing off other countries, and defending one's land against those who wish to tell you how to run your country. Such as the United States and it's infamous cold war and Russia's similar atrocities.
I believe in ethics, like treating people with respect, not numbers or sheep.
I have a good blend of rational liberal and conservative ideas. None of which will likely come to fruition, but nevertheless, they're good things to think about and to believe in.
I support the Green party and I support the rapid education of the poor.
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Anonymous2007-03-04 16:39 ID:iF/oEieH
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Still, taking the moral high ground makes you look like shit in comparison.
No, a libertarian is not defined as socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
A libertarian one end of a scale where the other end is authoritarian.
So, in a question of "are you more liberal or conservative" saying "why not libertarian" is stupid and irrelevant as you can be a liberal libertarian or a conservative libertarian
I was talking about the XY graph, X being economic freedom (conservatism) and Y being personal freedom (liberalism)
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Anonymous2007-03-04 20:05 ID:gpTHF8IF
I was talking about roses and beer.
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Anonymous2007-03-04 20:30 ID:iq/cdI9f
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Anonymous2007-03-04 20:39 ID:JNMqS4UJ
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No, there is actually nothing wrong with asking that question. Yes, you can be a liberal libertarian or a conservative libertarian, but you can also be just plain 'libertarian.'
what's a liberal libertarian and what's conservative libertarian?
isn't the point of libertarianism that the liberals are not going far enough and the conservatives are authoritarian?
Neither, one anarco-syndicalist please (but liberal on social issues, legalizing of all drugs, homosexual marriage, etc) also for the environment and regulation.
Neither, another neo-marxist who cannot think beyond one ridiculous abstract medium please (but liberal on social issues, legalizing of all drugs, homosexual marriage, etc) also for the environment and regulation.
Libertarians believe that they are the absolute owner of their own life, not the government and not anybody else. That's the basic most simple definition of the term. Not Libertarian holds the same belief outside of that definition
Liberal Libertarians hold the same belief but take leftist stances on more social issues such as immigration and foreign policy.
Conservative Libertarians are the opposite.
My point from the beginning was that it's not a 1 demonsional scale. You can't just say "Oh, i'm a libertarian" which is on the Y axis when asked whether you are liberal or conservative (where you are on the X axis). It doesn't answer the question.