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Communism

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-13 23:41

Why do people in the U.S. think communism is so horrible?

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 16:30

>>19
>"why do you fear it so much you are ready to use totalitarian and tyrannical methods to suppress it?"

First of all, you're arguing in the second person. That is to say, "I" don't fear communism.

Not even Americans, or the US Government (from what limited experience I have with it), fears communism enough to resort to such methods of eradication. The ends would not justify the means.

>"Surely, if communism is dictatorship then capitalism must be democracy?"

Wrong - this was never implied. Even if it had been, all one would need to do is look at the most basic emperical evidence to refute it, so what would have been the point?

>"So how can a democracy be undemocratic?"

What the fuck are you talking about? I suppose an answer to your question here wouls be through corruption. However, the question itself makes no since in that context.

>"Or is it so that your strawman description of communism..."

The comment to which you are referring is not a description of communism, nor is it in the least bit fallacious.

>"...capitalistic systems also have totalitarian and tyrannical tendencies..."

Some do, but it's never inherent in the ideology, contrast that with communism.

>"to ascribe such a broad term to a whole ideology or mode of production is an exercise in stupidity at best"

No, it's the exact opposite; because they linked via the nature of humanity itself.

You fail - if you're going to put fourth an argument at least try to be semi-coherent. Don't spew out a serries of questions and expect them to be taken as literal argument.

>>20
Yes, but that is not what happens. When a communistic state is in power the system degenerates into totalitarianism because of what I'd said earlier ("no one works more than they aboslutely have to to keep profiting from the system"). And then, the only way to keep the state itself afloat is through totalitarianism and/or the establishment of a dictatorship.

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