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Name: Give me lib or give me head 2007-01-25 17:09

ITT All the reasons, rational, logical and otherwise, to hate libertarians. All different forms and colors, no discrimination.

I go first.
Libertarians suck because they think that clearly defined ownership rights is enough to stop crime.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-09 16:57 ID:ZHo8EKT5

>>56
apparently libertarians don't believe in social contracts either, unless it benefits them.

Game theory is not just abstract mathematics, Game theory deals with how to make rational decisions given a wide variety of choices, how it is most likely outcomes will be in different situations. These are important factors for finding out how the oh-so-holy market works.

Machiavelli was cynical historian, cynical as in unemotional and calculating, in order to be calculating you need tools to calculate with, one of these tools are game theory. Thomas Hobbes was the 'founder' of utilitarianism, another dicipline which requires you to somehow calculate and precisely determine peoples actions.
There are of course other facts in libertarian political science is of course not true, but to claim that it is not a MAJOR part of the whole basic libertarian idea is just silly.

True, corporations spend millions on R&D every year, but all corporations are bound by their quarterly/bianually profits, this prevents most of them from investing enormeous amounts of money in incredibly large and maybe not financially profittable projects. Of course when corporations become large enough they will be able to do it, but it is one of the areas of research/development where the government may be more fitted than private corporations.

and btw, liberty != democracy, you achieve democracy by giving up some personal freedom. we vote on people, pass on to them our power and let them represent us to vote for and suggest what they think is best, and then we accept the outcome of this, even if it's not exactly what we wanted it to be. Well, that's representative democracy, but even if we talk direct democracy you still give up your power to the majority.

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