A New Threat to Civil Liberties

Consider for a moment if, as the leftists want, we socialize health care. 

What will this lead to? Obviously, the state would be playing a larger role in the health care industry, possibly even running the whole thing itself.  But the important thing is who picks up the tab.  As long as the individual, not the state, is paying his own bills, it is fine to say he should be able to take whatever risky decisions he wants to with his body, since he is paying his own bills for the possible results of said risky decisions. 

In a socialized health system, where health care is 'free', and no individual is paying his own bill individually, there is a present and great incentive for the people to vote for infringements of civil liberties - to ban certain activities that, in a capitalistic health care system would be entirely acceptable due to the fact that the individual is picking up his own bill.

If you are a civil liberties advocate who cares little about economic freedom, you should consider this before you join the ranks of the socialized medicine supporters.  Once socialized health care gets passed, you will find yourself fighting an uphill battle to protect a great many non-economic freedoms.

For a quick example.  If health care is socialized, there will be an increasing incentive for the state to ban smoking or drinking because it is very unhealthy. 

In a socialist system, the state must pay the bills of the people who drinks or smokes, not the individual.  The result? In a universal health care system, the public has an interest in somehow forcing you to act the way they want you to - an incentive they would not have in a capitalistic system.

This line of thinking, when combined with a socialized universal health care system would, without a doubt, lead to more infringements of personal freedom and choice down the road.  Freedoms that you take for granted now to do all manner of unhealthy things from smoking to drinking to eating ice cream or  engaging in any other unhealthy activity if you want are suddenly more likely to be in the crosshairs of public debate in the future, if socialized health care is implimented. 

Any personal freedom that is unhealthy will be up in the air as long as it is arguable that it is likely to result in the state paying some form of bill or other, rather than the individual taking the risk.  Socialist health care will invariably lead to a reduction of personal freedom and choice in our society, if implimented. 

You are all deluded. Thanks to the National Health Service the average person in the UK has healthcare that the pharoahs and kings of the ancient world could only dream of. This is the Miracle of Socialism. The NHS is the largest employer in Europe and one of the largest corporations on Earth, all run not for the benefit of greedy shareholders but for the benefit of the People. The NHS is the Jewel in the Crown of Socialism. That fucking treasonable maggot Blair has been trying to privatise the NHS by stealth using PFI. Politicians wouldn't dare admit to wanting to privatise our health service, even though the fucking rich want their fucking lower taxes, it is useless to appease them, taxes will never be low enough for them.

It is funny you Yanks consider socialized medicine theft, because in Britain private healthcare is considered theft as it steals doctors and nurses from the People's NHS, private education is considered theft because it steals teachers from the People's schools, I personally consider anyone who uses or works for private health or education to be an enemy of the People.

Also those that say socialized healthcare makes people unhealthy should realize how unhealthy American's are both mentally and physically. I am 5'9" 130 pounds hardly ever drink, smoke weed or fap, the last time I needed to use the NHS I fell down the stairs whilst drunk and broke my toe and I was treated by African and Chinese doctors, because we have doctors and nurses from around the world who work together for the People.

The American healthcare system invents diseases just to provide a cure for a profit, like completly unnessacary circumcisions which is viewed as a barbaric mutilation in Europe and the capitalist system needs to make people ill in order to sell them drugs. In a truly communist system drugs, tobacco and alcohol would not even exist as companies would not exist to grow them and their would be no demand, people would be happy all the time so wouldn't need drugs to escape the capitalist hell of individualism and competition, but people would haves loads of free time to go picking wild cannabis and wild magic mushrooms if they want.

What we need though is for the government to build many new NHS mental hospitals so we can treat those mentally ill people who think that capitalism is the solution to all lifes problems, who think communism doesn't work when it clearly does or who are infected with this American born again evangelic KKKristian Zionist shit we get poisoning our cable and sattellite TV channels. Please USA join the civilized world and stop being savage beasts.