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Are you trying to "win"?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 8:57

With all of your respective ideologies flying around, I've had to ask myself if you're actually trying to "win". Do you have an understanding that we are one human race of people? Is competition really needed when we, as humans, have escaped such things as animalistic instnict with logic and justice?

Do you have ethics or morals that are absolute, or do they only apply to you and yours? I'm not talking about "Let's be one World"- I am merely questioning whether you all feel more fulfilled by treating others negatively for whatever reason or if you'd rather help everyone and anyone you can.

It's not a directive, but a question.

Aum Shantih Shantih Shantih

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 4:00

>>50
"Have you seen a rebuttal to what I was saying about Lincoln starting it or not?"

No, which leads me to believe it is a crackpot theory that modern historians don't even bother with. I am not a scholar on this, but I did learn a lot about it in school, and Lincoln causing the war never came up in any of my reading, ever. Quite the opposite, most historians stated that Lincoln tried to avert war.

"If at the time nobody believed States could rightfully secede, why wasn't South Carolina promptly invaded upon secession? Why did South Carolina even attempt to secede, much less the rest of the States, if everybody knew they couldn't Consitutionally do so? If the people of the CSA thought the States couldn't rightfully secede, why did they go and fight for the CSA?"

South Carolina and the other states that seceded thought they could do so, the Union did not, they considered them rebels and never recognized their sovereignty. You said it was "generally understood" that they could secede, which is just not true. That was the whole basis of the constitutional crisis, whether or not states could secede. SC wasn't invaded because Lincoln didn't want war, he practically begged them to come back to avoid war in his inaugural address, also stating that he wouldn't touch existing slavery.

"The CSA was not part of the USA at the time."

The union didn't acknowledge the sovereignty of the CSA, as I just said, so it was not their territory in the opinion of the north.

>>51
After the emancipation proclamation it became a war over slavery, among other things.

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