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Stop using marxist derived ideologies.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-07 3:44

There is an overriding theme throughout them all which invalidates them. I'll give you the core concepts and if you are too stupid/lazy to reason what the overriding themes are, ask a question and I will do the thinking for you and write you a nice explanation.

1: Someone will always have more power over others and use it.

2: Without justice, there is no liberty.

3: Political, social, economic and military systems are essentially methods of directing the limited levels of motivation people have to serve a purpose.

4: Different systems influence to different degrees the amount of motivation directed towards their objective and the efficiency in which followers attempt to fulfil the objective.

5: Certain systems require impossible levels of motivation in order to exceed contemporary systems in efficiency.

6: A system is needed to enforce justice, preserve liberty and eliminate tyranny and thus create the environment needed for systems other than a type of tyranny.


Protip: Before replying, ensure that your reply is not already coverred by any combination of 6 of these points.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-07 9:15

>>6
So? His theories are not less vlid, but i sense that not many agorists have read all four volumes of das Kapital, as this would mean they actually did some research, instead of throwing stalin around like a wet blanket.

>>1
1. Of course, this is a stocastic fact and does not affect political philosophy in any way. It is like saying some will always have linger hair than others.
2. With exploitation, no justice, no liberty. Ending exploitation ranks higher because of that.
3. Religion and commercials work also. And they are all a form of coercion.
4.-6. What do you mean by system? Modes of production (mercantilism, bartering, capitalism, communism etc)? Political system (democracy, theocracy, parlamentarism, monarchy etc)? But, since you seem to be a libertarian, i guess you dont mean anything but "my system" vs "commie tyranny". In that case , read this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman
(And if its tl;dr, the point is that he wants to support his own theories by pitting them against a big scary monster of his own device that is easy to destroy, but the scary monster is not connected to reality in any way and therefore is his theories only supported in his own little mind). 

>>4
Should that be bullet number seven?
7. Economic efficiency has intrinsic value. And economic efficiency should be measured in only quantity terms, not quality terms (otherwise it wouldnt work since most socialist countries has high quality for low cost goods, eg Cuba that has a higher health care quality (lifes saved/capita) than the US). And econoimic efficiency is more important than ending exploitation, justice and liberty.
And if you believe that it is more efficient for you yourself do every service provided by the state then you really are stupid. One example, what would happen i yould ever leave the house?

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