Define "Capitalism"

The word "Capitalism" is used differently by it's opponents and supporters and others. In fact, I've seen definitions ranging from "The system of corporate power and relative lack of support for the poor", "Any system where Capital plays a major factor" (the author of that definition called communism a form of capitalism, showing how confused the definition is), "A free market with private property", and a few others.

When people calling themselves "Capitalists" use the word, they're talking about a relatively free market with a relative scarcity of collective property and mostly privately owned means of production.

When people calling themselves "Communists" use the word, they're talking about an exploitive system of corporate profits, worker oppression, and a wide gap between the rich and the poor.

Call me crazy, but these are not the same thing at all. They aren't mutually exclusive, but nor are they inable to exist without the other. The communist definition of capitalism applies better to Fascism than what a Capitalist is talking about. And it's possible to have private ownership of the means of production without having corporations.

When commie libs and capitalist pigs argue about "Capitalism" they're talking about two totally different things.

Obviously nobody here advocates the oppression of the poor and a massive class gap.

Discuss.

>>23

Well what would happen today? My crack head momma is murdered because the cops take half an hour to respond to a 911 call. And I'm too young to figure out what to do except filter through trash cans et cetera. But it's not as if adoption groups and orphanages will just cease to exist without government. It's also not impossible for anyone getting paid to protect the neighbor to help my crackhead momma if he can see that something is wrong. Besides, my crackhead momma would have assloads more money for things like police protection if she could get crack at Walgreens, who would be competing with CVS for the lowest price. And the cost of protection would be lower as competition weeds out the bad ones in favor of the cheap and high quality ones. So it's actually less likely for that to happen under the system I propose.

>>24

Everyone owns property. Your prime piece of property is yourself, your own body. You own your life, your time, your energy, and your talents. If you use those you can get other kinds of property easily.

So for example, if you attack me, you're damaging my body. My body is my property, and you're (ab)using my property without my permission, so you're breaking the law that I set for my property.

>>25

Capitalists tend to be greedy and egocentric but greed and egocentrism are not identical to capitalism. Besides, there's nothing actually wrong with being greedy and egocentric.