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is it ok to fuck other people over?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 5:12

as a way of getting ahead? or in other words, how acceptable is it?

please say what country you're from.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 5:24

If you're doing so through force or fraud, no.

Beyond that, there's nothing wrong with the act itself.

But if you do it sans force/fraud anyways, you're an asshole and I won't like you.

Confederate States of America (under US occupation)

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 9:06

Ask your self; Would you like to be fucked over?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 9:09

3 here.
I'm from Sweden.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 10:57

It's ok if they're a different color than you.

I'm from the USA.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 11:49

>>2
has it right

>>3
why that sure is practical, gee wiz!

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 12:08

just imagine that the one you are going to fuck over,
would he do the same if he had the chance.
if so I say do it before he does to you.
CANADA

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 14:18

I enslaved a few negroes the other day and now I don't have to do so much work and earn a lot more. Therefore it is ok to fuck people over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 14:39

yes!
fucking people over is what capitalism is about, and if that person kills himself, thats one less person you have to worry about. Also laws are meant to be broken
United States of Amerkkia
btw there is a insult to capitalism in the form of sarcasm

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 14:40

no, not really.

Denmark

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 14:58

No, it's not okay to fuck someone over just to get ahead.  If you have any sense of pride or honor you'll find a way to get ahead in the world through your own skills and hard work.

I'm from the USA.
(in before, "zOMG, an Amerikkkan who believes in hard work and justice, no wai!")

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 15:28

>>2

You don't fuck someone over without force or fraud. That's in the definition of "fucking someone over." If you managed to do it through luck or something else beyond your own control, ur doin it wrong.

Anyway, fucking someone over to get ahead is something I personally look severely down on, but it seems that the US breeds and proliferates it, so I'm probably in the minority here.

Name: OP 2007-01-04 21:19

>>12
yes, that's what this topic is about - walking over innocent people in an attempt to bring yourself up.

now here's the thing.. we all know there are dickwads who have no consideration for others but i guess what i'm trying to find out is - in what places is it less frowned upon?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 22:31

>>13

Any capitalist state :D

That is, within a corporation, you usually see the sociopathic personalities getting ahead, since they are the ones who can get things done.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-04 23:27

You people are not very intelligent.

Intelligent people in positions of power strive not to promote sociopaths, using them to complete tasks by all means, but never trusting them with any real power. Thus intelligent sociopaths tend to hide their true nature if it is necessary to gain power and likewise people in positions of power will try to root out possible sociopaths by leaving desk drawers unlocked, having a fake USER which is unpassworded and leave some information that will make them act a certain way if they knew about it, making them work with annoying people to see if they will bully them etc..

It's all a game of wits.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 1:26

If you've ever seen the film Modern Times, that's a good political commentary of the flaws of capitalism. So no, fucking other people over is not ok, it creates corrupt monopolies like Walmart and Enron, which end up with way too much power and create oligarchies.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 1:47

2 here.

>>12

I was thinking fucking someone over like marrying someone with more money specifically to divorce and take half. It's not force and it's not fraud, it was voluntary, but if you don't think that's fucking someone over you're a dumbass.

I'm going to hate you if you marry someone to divorce and take half, even if they had a contractual obligation that they voluntarily assumed to do so.

Also contained in this post is part of the reason I'm never going to my marriage licensed.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 1:50

>>16
Enron wasnt a monopoly and walmart dosn't fuck anyone over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:03

>>18
But they make a lot of money so them, their associates and their families are evil and should be sent to special camps where they can be kept safe from the population.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:05

>>17

That counts as fraud to me.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:05

>>18

Ever wonder how Walmart keeps its prices so low?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:09

>>21
They work hard.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:10

>>21
Intelligent buisness moves?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:11

>>21

unless my sarcasm meter is broken lol whoops

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:11

>>21
Baby burning farms?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:12

>>21

Wages are prices paid for labor.

Do you want high prices or high wages?
Do you want low prices or low wages?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:14

26 here. I screwed that one up.

You can have high prices and high wages, or low prices and low wages, you can't have high wages and low prices.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:16

>>27
Sure you can, with a little help from uncle sam. Hes such a  nice man :)

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:33

>>27
Failed economics :P

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:37

>>29
I had a B in economics. So shut up.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:38

>>30
I HAS A PHD IN BEING REALI SMRT AND CLEVAR SO U SHUT UP

;-;

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:42

>>31
WEL I GOT AN A+ IN ROCKET SURGERY SO NO U.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:44

>>32
IM TEH FUKEN BATMAN SO KILL YOURSELF

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 2:46

>>33
I AM GOD. GO JUMP IN A LAKE OF BURNING SULPHUR.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 3:11

>>34
WELL...wait who am i again?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 3:21

>>35
You're the one that eventually loses.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 3:22

Any capitalist state :D

yeah. i think china would be a fine example. instead of the overlords fucking over the peasants like in the past, people have discovered capitalism and now everyone's fucking over someone.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 4:04

>>37

We're talking about whether or not it's looked down upon or not, dumbass. Stop trying to make this another capitalism/communism debate.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 16:07

>>38
No, we shall freely look at other economic systems since this message board is full of people who feel others should be persuaded to agree with their ideas.

If the entire point of this discussion is to look at things which are wrong with capitalism, then it has no place here since the only way to prove something is to take all the facts you can find into account whilst making your judgement.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 16:44

Communism fucks over the good workers in favor of the sucky workers.

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