How many Libertarians does it take...

...to screw in a light bulb?

None. They sit in the dark and hope the "free market" provides light.

Umm this fits more with liberals, they would depend on the government ext. And a light bulb is the product of the free market, so you could say the free market did provide light. If you really didnt want to screw it in you could pay someone to do it, if you really did not know how to do it, the free market would do it for you.

better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

!$#@*&& darkness!

And the free market emerges with light, but since you're in the dark, you can't make fucking light, and free market monopolies tell you to pay 4939453 dollars for the light, you need the light, you pay.
EVERYBODY WINS, JUST SOME MORE THAN OTHERS!!!

A liberal is some one who would give the shirt off of some one else's back.

>>4
Correct answer.

>>4
And the free market emerges with light, but since you're in the dark, you can't make fucking light, and free market monopolies tell you to pay 4939453 dollars for the light, so you set up another light bulb company and sell them for £5 per bulb and become a millionaire.
EVERYBODY WINS, JUST SOME MORE THAN OTHERS!!!*

fix'd

>>7
How do I do that lol? Copyright infringment and they own all the lightbulb making tools.

I love this little dark room, all the real life factors get ignored.

>>8
Get a job.

>>8
no discoverys can be copyrighted.

>>4
Fail.  Name a monopoly for me that was actually created by the market, with no government intervention, in which the businessmen abused their marketshare and ability to set prices in the way in which you point out in your post.  Name one.

>>12
Microsux

>>12
Walmart

>>12
Ralroads, US Steel, JP Morgan, Rockefeller

Lol, good fucking game.

>>7
Why would he do that? He'd just charge 4939452 dollars a bulb. Other company would come out with "better" bulb and keep price at 4939453. Competition remains at that price range. Price drops slowly if company "must" because keeping up profit margins is key.

Lol, you're so fucking stupid.

If it costs Apple 80bux to make an ipod and they sell it for 250, why doesn't microsoft make the zune only 200? Oh wait, its because they want the same profit margins. God you libertarians think everyone is so fucking good hearted, you're like inverse marxists

>>16
i know for a fact an ipod costs maybe 20$ a peice to make, but making them is easy, its development they have to pay for

Yeah, so occasionaly elements of the economy get monopolised, the population can vote in more regulation over them, big deal.

What I want the socialists to do is to explain to me how the government MONOPOLISING everything will help? Because that's what you are saying, that the government should run everything. People only want government to regulate the economy to enforce justice or as a last resort, because the economy is better run in the hands of individuals who directly profit from the success of what they do and it would be unfair for someone not to get the credit for their work.

I though socialism was about fairness and people getting paid for the amount of work they do.

Socialism isn't a super magical infallible ideal, get over it.

>>17
Still doesn't explain why price between music players isn't really different.  There are no "better" media players that cost less than the other guy.  I have yet to see a new computer monitor design cost less than the existing ones, at least until they are archaic and development has surged forward.

Im not to familiar with JP Morgan or Rockefeller on this issue, but US Steel was only able to hold its monopoly because it kept prices lower then ANY other Startup Company could counter, what happened when anti-trust was applied? US steel skyrocketed and the entire steel industry in America began a massive downward spiral.

And for the railroads, im assuming you mean the westward expansion. This was solely caused by government subsidize. America was establishing industry in the west, the government wanted to capitalize on this. Big brother gave out free land grants to a railroad that had otherwise no way of making profit on said line. Thanks to this money it was the only line to connect the east and west and no compition could arrive until it was made profitable, once this happened, the original company went out of business.

 For Microsoft (and walmart)see US steel, same situation different product. Linux/Mac will never be able to mess with Microsoft until they develop a product of equal or greater value and sell it cheaper.

Unjust monopolies cannot exist in a laziez-faire system, the only way to have a monopoly is by being the best/providing the cheapest product, you cannot reap retarded profits and get away with it
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>>20
In a true laissez faire system there would be very few monopolies and any democracy can simply vote to increase the regulation of that monopoly and what's more the heavily regulated monopoly would still be more efficient than a nationalised business since the monopoly would have to compete with whatever alternatives the free-market may generate in the future and the fact that the media can focus all of it's attentions on these few regulated monopolies instead of having to watch over 100s of nationalised industries and services. Assuming of course the population isn't stupid enough to vote in a government that subsidises the hypothetical necessary monopoly and simply lifts regulation if and when market forces take over.

That's the only major complexity of the laissez faire system and clearly there is nothing too wrong about it. It exists though.

>>21
Ack, that was a long sentence..

>>21
Too bad not everyones as smart as you are, huh?

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>>20
Linux is a better product than Mircosoft's or Windows, and its fucking free, doesn't get any less expensive than that.

>>25
no its not..its better for you but microsoft suits most people much better then linux does

>>4
>>And the free market emerges with light, but since you're in the dark, you can't make fucking light, and free market monopolies tell you to pay 4939453 dollars for the light, you need the light, you pay.

In after liberal's paranoid William Gibson-style delusion.