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Something For XEL

Name: Anonymous 2006-12-05 22:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCI5opHrf_8&mode=related&search=

Xel, reading a number of your statements, I can see that you aren't very big on libertarian PRINCIPLES, and that you are buying into utilitarian ideas.  I'd like to take the time to point you in the direction of this little video I found on youtube here...

Pay attention to what he is saying about principles & utilitarianism, as I think this is a crucial difference between the way you think, and the way I think. 

If you and I agree on something, say, the legalization of drugs, but we disagree with each other on WHY drugs should be legalized, there will likely be other ways in which we don't see eye to eye. 

You may also want to hear what he says about regulation of the economy, libertarianism, crime, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2006-12-06 18:49

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"There are limits to my utilitarianism, but you were so set on popping some baloon you envisioned me holding that you didn't see it is far from hollow. My point: Unneccesary taxation, i.e. taxation that does not level the playing filed and makes your society more meritocratic, is partial slavery."

If your principles aren't pure, don't you think you should re-examine your principles, firstly?

Anyway, how can one form of taxation equate to slavery, yet another doesn't? If you enslave someone to make a society more meritocratic, is it somehow different from enslaving them for some other purpose, motive, or goal?

"Forcing people to start off in a valley on a non-level playing field is to use their initially poor position to keep them away from competing with you - also subjecting them to partial slavery."

I see little reason to think laissez-faire capitalism, anarcho capitalism, or a generally 'libertarian' society would not be socially mobile. 

"So we find a non-ideological solution that actually comports with libertarian logic and ethics rather than making up monikers for one another and humming and umming into a webcam."

I don't see how slavery of any kind for any reason comports with libertarian logic and ethics.

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