Something For XEL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCI5opHrf_8&mode=related&search=

Xel, reading a number of your statements, I can see that you aren't very big on libertarian PRINCIPLES, and that you are buying into utilitarian ideas.  I'd like to take the time to point you in the direction of this little video I found on youtube here...

Pay attention to what he is saying about principles & utilitarianism, as I think this is a crucial difference between the way you think, and the way I think. 

If you and I agree on something, say, the legalization of drugs, but we disagree with each other on WHY drugs should be legalized, there will likely be other ways in which we don't see eye to eye. 

You may also want to hear what he says about regulation of the economy, libertarianism, crime, etc.

"Wow, the Libertarians are Socially Liberal? Horseshit, I don't see strong support for the legalization of Marijuana, Strong support for abortion, strong support for gay rights, strong support for abolishing American Imperialism (Yes, it exists, and it doesn't run on laissez-faire, cunts), strong support for fucking anything that could be called "liberal".  Libertarians are just republicans without the hail jesus fervor.  They don't support a "free" or as the republicans call it "decadent" society."

umm are you insane? they support }{}{}{}{}{ALL}}{{{{}{}{} of those things. the only thing with some argument is gay rights This is because under a libertarian government the church has the right to marry whatever it wants, the government would not have the right to force the church to marry gays for any reason.
But at the same time all government incentives for marriage would be destroyed so marriage might just become a thing of the past anyways.